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Plans are afoot to introduce trams - like this one in Birmingham - to Hereford! Campaigners are hoping to use the city's disused railway line. What do you think of the idea? http://bbc.in/2c2YxXU

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Stephen Baird-Parker I know nothing of the plan but I think that the distance from the station to the town centre is a drawback to getting people into what is a beautiful little city. Excellent idea. I always wonder though, why do you need tracks? I grew up in Nottingham with amazing road based trolley buses. Surely these would cost a fraction of a tram line?
 
 
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2nd part of the FB page HV only allowed me to post it in 2 parts for whatever reason I do not know.  Anyway 
 
 
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Dave Taylor So they will use the disused rail lines ...dont they stop at the back of sainsburys..or will the train do a sharp 90% turn then another straight after in the space of 50 metres??..then where will it go??...Has this even been thought through.??..Hereford is an old town not bought up to modern standards and the roads are all single carriage and the walking space is even worse..and yet were expected to believe this marvelous idea will ever come about as there is no where to stick stations and the train itself will only have maybe a mile and a half of track with no where else to go unless they knock down houses or sainsburys...
 
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Glen Dipple trams in Hereford, Dream on i say. Major city's have tram systems not small rural places like Hereford..Fact is Birmingham extension from snow hill to new street which is less then a mile cost £128 million pounds, the next extension from new street to broad street which will have no overhead wires a distance of 1 mile will cost £78 million pounds. and remember Birmingham trams are losing money on a weekly basis ...
 
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Jenna Hughes Accessing the centre of Hereford needs to be easier. Parking prices are astronomical. Merton meadow car park is going to close. Finding parking spaces gets harder and harder. Road closures, road works. Getting around Hereford is a nightmare. Something needs to be done about that before considering trams. A park and ride would be a good idea.
 
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Dale Teague What about putting the ones back in Kidderminster?
 
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Third and final part

 
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Chris Hewlett Doesn't matter what we think. It will be for government to decide. 
We don't have brains and we don't know what we want.
 
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Chris Amor apparently so according to the government
 
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Chris Hewlett It's awful. They come out with these brilliant ideas that we like and want to happen. Then boom. It costs too much. You can't have it.
 
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Jamie Howard It would be nice to see, how about the bypass tho and actually give us room to move on the city to start with.
 
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Nicola Louise Howell I think it's a good idea
 
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Vincent Hayes thats a Good Idea i like it
 
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Jane Coxon I think it's a great idea.
 
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Shaun Rooke This will take about as long for hereford to get as the by pass.
 
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Chris Hewlett Doesn't matter what we think. It will be for government to decide. 

We don't have brains and we don't know what we want.

 
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Chris Amor apparently so according to the government
 
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Chris Hewlett It's awful. They come out with these brilliant ideas that we like and want to happen. Then boom. It costs too much. You can't have it.
 
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Jamie Howard It would be nice to see, how about the bypass tho and actually give us room to move on the city to start with.
 
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Nicola Louise Howell I think it's a good idea
 
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Vincent Hayes thats a Good Idea i like it
 
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Jane Coxon I think it's a great idea.
 
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Shaun Rooke This will take about as long for hereford to get as the by pass.
 
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Where are these comments Denise? I cannot see them on the topic put up this week, so a these comments from the original discussion last year?

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 Let alone the fact that the council won't invest in this sort of thing, especially when they have vested interest in cars from a certain cabinet member. What we need is a cull of the 70's generation in the cabinet, get some forward thinking 30 and 40 somethings in the cabinet, and not the current bunch.

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 Let alone the fact that the council won't invest in this sort of thing, especially when they have vested interest in cars from a certain cabinet member. What we need is a cull of the 70's generation in the cabinet, get some forward thinking 30 and 40 somethings in the cabinet, and not the current bunch.

I 2nd that

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 Let alone the fact that the council won't invest in this sort of thing, especially when they have vested interest in cars from a certain cabinet member. What we need is a cull of the 70's generation in the cabinet, get some forward thinking 30 and 40 somethings in the cabinet, and not the current bunch.

 

 

I do not believe the council will found this good idea either but private funding may be the way forward. 

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We need to stop talking about things like this that will never happen and concentrate on what will make the City easier

to navigate using car,cycle & walking.

The old codgers running the Council aint listening,time to make them look up and take notice

 

I do not agree ragwort, in fact we should step up the pressure to make these things happen! Never had you down as a defeatest. 

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Why this shouldn't this happen? The Council are looking to build bus lanes on Belmont road apparently http://councillors.herefordshire.gov.uk/documents/s50039183/2016.17.INF.011%20R%20South%20Wye%20Transport%20Package%20active%20travel%20measures%2026Aug16.pdf . My friiend said that this involved purchasing some of the front gardens along Belmont Road below the railway bridge. I cant understand why they are building bus priority lanes down the Belmont Road when the Council are looking to cut the bus services and only buses on Ross road will be part of the primary bus services? If this Council can talk about spending so much money on building bus lanes, it might be cheaper for them to help fund the trams.and let someone else organise the transport in Hereford and across the County.

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Is this event being run independently from Herefordshire Council or jointly?

 

Independently as far as I am aware.

 

Personally, I love the idea and it will create more activity along the old lines, especially if there was an evening service. People still feel vulnerable along here adding a service like this may go some way to making people feel a little safer too.

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Rather than chit chat, the actual proposals are here

 

http://councillors.herefordshire.gov.uk/mgIssueHistoryHome.aspx?IId=50018528&EVT=113

 

Look at Appendix A, panels 2 and 3 for all the Belmont Road proposals. No trams included. Johnson has already made it clear it won't happen on his watch, no matter how good an idea - they can only think new roads and traffic lights.

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According to the panels it seems that in the last consultation that the public said "Poor walking and cycling is one of the top five transport issues in South Wye. You support more and improved walking and cycling infrastructure in South Wye" . So if the Council care about what we say why are these new measures not happening until 2019? Alot of the proposals in South Wye could happen alot quicker than that e.g. the 20 mph zones they propose in many residential areas - 3 years to put up a few road signs? Councillor Johnson isn't interested in trams because it wont make the Council any money and it doesn't involve a nice new road he can drive his big  car along with all the other big fancy cars driven by this administration. You wouldn't catch any of them on a tram or a bus or a bike, and certainly not in South Hereford.

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The Council has been adamant for years that they will not have a tram system on the GWW. The late Albert Heinz not only offered to pay for tram along the GWW but also agreed to run the service, the answer from the council was NO. Mr Heinz put that money into buying the Castle Pool Hotel instead. In regard to the gardens being taken from the houses on Belmont road, again I cannot see this happening these houses are over 100 years old and privately owned, and their cellars are a part of the gardens.

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