Colin James Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Tram Systems - An interesting event for those of you interested in Hereford's future infrastructure. Merton Hotel Commercial Road Hereford 7th September at 1400 hours, please come and join us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretsquirrel Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Is this event being run independently from Herefordshire Council or jointly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Wright Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 I might attend because I do like the idea of a tram system and it will be interesting to see what is said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Lloyd Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 BBC Hereford & Worcester 3 hrs · Plans are afoot to introduce trams - like this one in Birmingham - to Hereford! Campaigners are hoping to use the city's disused railway line. What do you think of the idea? http://bbc.in/2c2YxXU More with Elliott and Toni on Thursday's Breakfast Show... 12 Comments 1 Share 4646 Top comments LikeShow More Reactions Comment Share Comments Write a comment... Stephen Baird-Parker I know nothing of the plan but I think that the distance from the station to the town centre is a drawback to getting people into what is a beautiful little city. Excellent idea. I always wonder though, why do you need tracks? I grew up in Nottingham with amazing road based trolley buses. Surely these would cost a fraction of a tram line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Lloyd Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 2nd part of the FB page HV only allowed me to post it in 2 parts for whatever reason I do not know. Anyway Dave Taylor So they will use the disused rail lines ...dont they stop at the back of sainsburys..or will the train do a sharp 90% turn then another straight after in the space of 50 metres??..then where will it go??...Has this even been thought through.??..Hereford is an old town not bought up to modern standards and the roads are all single carriage and the walking space is even worse..and yet were expected to believe this marvelous idea will ever come about as there is no where to stick stations and the train itself will only have maybe a mile and a half of track with no where else to go unless they knock down houses or sainsburys... Like · Reply · 1 · 1 hr Glen Dipple trams in Hereford, Dream on i say. Major city's have tram systems not small rural places like Hereford..Fact is Birmingham extension from snow hill to new street which is less then a mile cost £128 million pounds, the next extension from new street to broad street which will have no overhead wires a distance of 1 mile will cost £78 million pounds. and remember Birmingham trams are losing money on a weekly basis ... Like · Reply · 1 · 1 hr Jenna Hughes Accessing the centre of Hereford needs to be easier. Parking prices are astronomical. Merton meadow car park is going to close. Finding parking spaces gets harder and harder. Road closures, road works. Getting around Hereford is a nightmare. Something needs to be done about that before considering trams. A park and ride would be a good idea. Like · Reply · 45 mins Dale Teague What about putting the ones back in Kidderminster? Like · Reply · 1 hr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Lloyd Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Third and final part Chris Hewlett Doesn't matter what we think. It will be for government to decide. We don't have brains and we don't know what we want. Like · Reply · 1 hr Chris Amor apparently so according to the government Like · Reply · 1 hr Chris Hewlett It's awful. They come out with these brilliant ideas that we like and want to happen. Then boom. It costs too much. You can't have it. Like · Reply · 1 hr Write a reply... Jamie Howard It would be nice to see, how about the bypass tho and actually give us room to move on the city to start with. Like · Reply · 1 hr Nicola Louise Howell I think it's a good idea Like · Reply · 1 hr Vincent Hayes thats a Good Idea i like it Like · Reply · 1 hr Jane Coxon I think it's a great idea. Like · Reply · 1 hr Shaun Rooke This will take about as long for hereford to get as the by pass. Like · Reply · 3 · 1 hr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin James Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 The HT have run this article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Third and final part Chris Hewlett Doesn't matter what we think. It will be for government to decide. We don't have brains and we don't know what we want. Like · Reply · 1 hr Chris Amor apparently so according to the government Like · Reply · 1 hr Chris Hewlett It's awful. They come out with these brilliant ideas that we like and want to happen. Then boom. It costs too much. You can't have it. Like · Reply · 1 hr Write a reply... Jamie Howard It would be nice to see, how about the bypass tho and actually give us room to move on the city to start with. Like · Reply · 1 hr Nicola Louise Howell I think it's a good idea Like · Reply · 1 hr Vincent Hayes thats a Good Idea i like it Like · Reply · 1 hr Jane Coxon I think it's a great idea. Like · Reply · 1 hr Shaun Rooke This will take about as long for hereford to get as the by pass. Like · Reply · 3 · 1 hr Where are these comments Denise? I cannot see them on the topic put up this week, so a these comments from the original discussion last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Lloyd Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 No Mick I picked them up off Facebook and copied them across. I think it was the Hereford Times site on FB the first and second parts are further up the page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragwert Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 One of the many many reason why this will not go ahead...bbc.co.uk/news/uk/England-Birmingham-36381887 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefordman75 Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Let alone the fact that the council won't invest in this sort of thing, especially when they have vested interest in cars from a certain cabinet member. What we need is a cull of the 70's generation in the cabinet, get some forward thinking 30 and 40 somethings in the cabinet, and not the current bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragwert Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Let alone the fact that the council won't invest in this sort of thing, especially when they have vested interest in cars from a certain cabinet member. What we need is a cull of the 70's generation in the cabinet, get some forward thinking 30 and 40 somethings in the cabinet, and not the current bunch. I 2nd that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Let alone the fact that the council won't invest in this sort of thing, especially when they have vested interest in cars from a certain cabinet member. What we need is a cull of the 70's generation in the cabinet, get some forward thinking 30 and 40 somethings in the cabinet, and not the current bunch. I do not believe the council will found this good idea either but private funding may be the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragwert Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 We need to stop talking about things like this that will never happen and concentrate on what will make the City easier to navigate using car,cycle & walking.The old codgers running the Council aint listening,time to make them look up and take notice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragwert Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 http://www.briefreport.co.uk/news/birmingham-tram-network-has-never-made-profit-4155298.html One of the many many reason why this will not go ahead...bbc.co.uk/news/uk/England-Birmingham-36381887 Link dead try this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 We need to stop talking about things like this that will never happen and concentrate on what will make the City easier to navigate using car,cycle & walking. The old codgers running the Council aint listening,time to make them look up and take notice I do not agree ragwort, in fact we should step up the pressure to make these things happen! Never had you down as a defeatest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragwert Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 I'm a realist Mick,and prerty good at being one too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAF Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Perhaps when the new double ended bottleneck road is complete and failing catastrophically, Then maybe then, they might just listen to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Why this shouldn't this happen? The Council are looking to build bus lanes on Belmont road apparently http://councillors.herefordshire.gov.uk/documents/s50039183/2016.17.INF.011%20R%20South%20Wye%20Transport%20Package%20active%20travel%20measures%2026Aug16.pdf . My friiend said that this involved purchasing some of the front gardens along Belmont Road below the railway bridge. I cant understand why they are building bus priority lanes down the Belmont Road when the Council are looking to cut the bus services and only buses on Ross road will be part of the primary bus services? If this Council can talk about spending so much money on building bus lanes, it might be cheaper for them to help fund the trams.and let someone else organise the transport in Hereford and across the County. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Smith Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Is this event being run independently from Herefordshire Council or jointly? Independently as far as I am aware. Personally, I love the idea and it will create more activity along the old lines, especially if there was an evening service. People still feel vulnerable along here adding a service like this may go some way to making people feel a little safer too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefordman75 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Bus lanes on Belmont Road will be for the councillors in their own personal limos to sail pass us peasants stuck in the traffic - will probably be duel purpose taxi/bus lanes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelsgood Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Rather than chit chat, the actual proposals are here http://councillors.herefordshire.gov.uk/mgIssueHistoryHome.aspx?IId=50018528&EVT=113 Look at Appendix A, panels 2 and 3 for all the Belmont Road proposals. No trams included. Johnson has already made it clear it won't happen on his watch, no matter how good an idea - they can only think new roads and traffic lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 According to the panels it seems that in the last consultation that the public said "Poor walking and cycling is one of the top five transport issues in South Wye. You support more and improved walking and cycling infrastructure in South Wye" . So if the Council care about what we say why are these new measures not happening until 2019? Alot of the proposals in South Wye could happen alot quicker than that e.g. the 20 mph zones they propose in many residential areas - 3 years to put up a few road signs? Councillor Johnson isn't interested in trams because it wont make the Council any money and it doesn't involve a nice new road he can drive his big car along with all the other big fancy cars driven by this administration. You wouldn't catch any of them on a tram or a bus or a bike, and certainly not in South Hereford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenda Powell Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 The Council has been adamant for years that they will not have a tram system on the GWW. The late Albert Heinz not only offered to pay for tram along the GWW but also agreed to run the service, the answer from the council was NO. Mr Heinz put that money into buying the Castle Pool Hotel instead. In regard to the gardens being taken from the houses on Belmont road, again I cannot see this happening these houses are over 100 years old and privately owned, and their cellars are a part of the gardens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin James Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 I attended a meeting at the Mayors Parlour with the Mayor, John Harrington, the clerk, Phil Evans and his colleague for a discussion before their meeting this afternoon. It was a good productive meeting, so watch this space as they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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