Boycotting EU elections

[Cambo]

If the PM IS GRANTED A EXTENSION to leaving the EU then the UK will more than likely have to take part in EU elections...but I would urge folks in the UK not to take part in but rather boycotting with the setting up of picket lines to peaceful encourage people not to take part in them so as not to give them legitimacy so as to send a clear message to our corrupt politicians & the EU itself that we have had enough of there shenanigans in trying to keep us in the unholy union which is contrary to the referendum vote in 2016

But the big question is would people actually take part or just act like sheep in excepting their fate?

[megilleland]

The EU don't give a stuff how we vote because they will ignore us and still take our money.

[megilleland]

46 minutes ago, Cambo said:

If the PM IS GRANTED A EXTENSION to leaving the EU then the UK will more than likely have to take part in EU elections...but I would urge folks in the UK not to take part in but rather boycotting with the setting up of picket lines to peaceful encourage people not to take part in them so as not to give them legitimacy so as to send a clear message to our corrupt politicians & the EU itself that we have had enough of there shenanigans in trying to keep us in the unholy union which is contrary to the referendum vote in 2016

But the big question is would people actually take part or just act like sheep in excepting their fate?

The voting system in the UK needs changing to represent the views of the public - has to be made compulsory subject to fine. After all the politicians say the referendum doesn't reflect the view of the UK. If you don't vote the present system first past the post suits the two main parties to a tee.

[Tom Smith]

It is my right to vote in every election I am eligible to do so. I will continue to do so.

No person shall ever stop me.

[Cambo]

11 minutes ago, Tom Smith said:

It is my right to vote in every election I am eligible to do so. I will continue to do so.

No person shall ever stop me.

That is your right but given you are a remainer I’m not surprised that you will vote in the EU elections I however will not because I do not recognise the legitimacy of it the EU that is given we should of left on March the 29th

but far from stopping anybody physically from voting im suggesting a peaceful protest against voting so please do not try to insinuate that I am suggesting to forcibly stop you or anybody else for that matter from voting as I am not but I do feel it is a waste of time voting in that particular election. 

[Cambo]

38 minutes ago, megilleland said:

The voting system in the UK needs changing to represent the views of the public - has to be made compulsory subject to fine. After all the politicians say the referendum doesn't reflect the view of the UK. If you don't vote the present system first past the post suits the two main parties to a tee.

Yes megilleland I agree but I feel it is pointless voting in EU elections given we are supposed to be leaving? 

[megilleland]

47 minutes ago, Cambo said:

Yes megilleland I agree but I feel it is pointless voting in EU elections given we are supposed to be leaving? 

Leaving maybe next year and possibly never.

[Cambo]

Well the Westminster gangsters are doing all they can to prevent us leaving so a no show at the EU ballot boxes with protesters outside would send a clear message to them that we want out in my opinion 

[bobby47]

I agree with Cambo. I’m not going to vote in this or any other Election. The social engineering programme has been completed and the people will now think, vote and do whatever they’ve been programmed to do.

if you voted to Remain, you’re a good, kind and wise person. If you voted to Leave you are reckless, I’ll informed and you’re a tyrannical right wing neo fascist racist who hates anyone of difference.

if you vote Labour, you’re a decent kindly good soul who cares about their fellow man and all the millions of oppressed people who’s lives have been destroyed by political groups who are not Socialists.

That’s the reality. This is the end product of the Far Left Marxist Ideology that’s invaded our lives and compels people to vote the way they’re supposed to vote. Whether it’s this or identity politics that champions any minority group that claims to be being oppressed by a so called tyrannical oppressive male patriarchy, you and your sovereign individual views and opinions have been usurped by the collective groups that are drawn to ideologies that begin as a noble cause and end in domination and tyranny.

 

[Tom Smith]

4 hours ago, Cambo said:

That is your right but given you are a remainer I’m not surprised that you will vote in the EU elections I however will not because I do not recognise the legitimacy of it the EU that is given we should of left on March the 29th

but far from stopping anybody physically from voting im suggesting a peaceful protest against voting so please do not try to insinuate that I am suggesting to forcibly stop you or anybody else for that matter from voting as I am not but I do feel it is a waste of time voting in that particular election. 

You need to look at it this way.

If 100 people were in a room only 37 of them voted to leave.

That tells you why the Brexit situation has come about.

I don't respect the vote as both sides lied to the electorate.

[Cambo]

1 hour ago, Tom Smith said:

You need to look at it this way.

If 100 people were in a room only 37 of them voted to leave.

That tells you why the Brexit situation has come about.

I don't respect the vote as both sides lied to the electorate.

Do you use the same formula for general & local elections? Because it is pretty floored in my opinion....Also did you vote during the referendum?

No the Brexit situation has come about because people on the remain side along with those remain MP’s have refused to except the result...you saying you don’t respect the vote because both sides lied is a very weak argument as all politicians are known liars & do so when there are votes at stake in any election...which I’m sure you are fully aware of?...unless of course you are saying that it came as a complete surprise to you that politicians are able to lie at all??

[Tom Smith]

I have voted in every election I have been eligible to vote in since 1982.

Once again of 100 people in a room only 37 voted for Brexit?

Is that democracy?

No, it's the system we use in this Country and I accept that.

You say all politicians lie, what proof do you have that is the case?

My opinion, which I hope you respect like I respect your opinion is this.

Cameron called the referendum to placate a divided Tory party on Europe and to try and stop the flow to UKIP. It spectacularly failed to do what he wanted it to do, hence his immediate departure. 

We are now where we are.

But if European elections are called I will vote in them as is my right because not voting is how we got here.

Of 100 people in a room only 37 voted for Brexit the other 63 were against or failed to bother to vote.

[Colin James]

2 hours ago, Tom Smith said:

You need to look at it this way.

If 100 people were in a room only 37 of them voted to leave.

That tells you why the Brexit situation has come about.

I don't respect the vote as both sides lied to the electorate.

I have to disagree, I knew exactly what I was voting for, LEAVE the EU!

I do not remember reading anything on the ballot paper about any deals etc.. I voted to leave the EU, that was to LEAVE the Custom Union, Leave the Single Market, LEAVE EVERYTHING! The Remoaners are adding their own complications to justify a second referendum.

 

[Cambo]

1 hour ago, Tom Smith said:

I have voted in every election I have been eligible to vote in since 1982.

Once again of 100 people in a room only 37 voted for Brexit?

Is that democracy?

No, it's the system we use in this Country and I accept that.

You say all politicians lie, what proof do you have that is the case?

My opinion, which I hope you respect like I respect your opinion is this.

Cameron called the referendum to placate a divided Tory party on Europe and to try and stop the flow to UKIP. It spectacularly failed to do what he wanted it to do, hence his immediate departure. 

We are now where we are.

But if European elections are called I will vote in them as is my right because not voting is how we got here.

Of 100 people in a room only 37 voted for Brexit the other 63 were against or failed to bother to vote.

First point I respect your opinion however that does not mean I have to accept your argument  as I do not & I would suspect you do not accept my side of the argument either?

yes it is as anyone of voting age has the opportunity & right to do so except those I believe that are incarcerated? So those that decided not to vote for whatever reason should have no complaints at the outcome of any election or referendum as they unlike yourself did not take up there right to exercise that vote but you in doing so you should except the result regardless as you where happy enough to take part in the referendum.

you say you except the system but yet you do not accept the result? So why take part in voting if your not willing to accept the outcome or is it just when it’s not to your liking? 

i did say that & the proof I have is every time one of them opens their mouth a lie pops out you even said it yourself that both sides lied during the referendum campaign where they not mostly all politicians?

well more fool Cameron then isn’t it for calling it in the first place regardless of his reasoning but he did call for it & you willing like many others took part in it with no complaints at the time from yourself or anyone else for that matter I suspect? happily in the knowledge no doubt that it would be a landslide for the remain camp but shock of horrors the British people turned round & stuck two fingers up to all the arrogant remainer’s & the EU who all thought they’d never lose the vote...but they did & that’s democracy whether you like it or not?

if they are called I will try to organise protests outside polling stations but if you wish to exercise your right to vote then that is your free choice to which you have ever right to do so as I do too have the right to peaceful protest against.

again your 100 people in a room argument is floored as those 100 people in a room who do not exercise their free right to cast a vote that is there own fault so should have no complaints at the outcome neither those who voted against the result either as it just shows that they where unable to garner enough votes to swing the outcome in their favour.

 

 

[Alex]

14 hours ago, Cambo said:

First point I respect your opinion however that does not mean I have to accept your argument  as I do not & I would suspect you do not accept my side of the argument either?

yes it is as anyone of voting age has the opportunity & right to do so except those I believe that are incarcerated? So those that decided not to vote for whatever reason should have no complaints at the outcome of any election or referendum as they unlike yourself did not take up there right to exercise that vote but you in doing so you should except the result regardless as you where happy enough to take part in the referendum.

you say you except the system but yet you do not accept the result? So why take part in voting if your not willing to accept the outcome or is it just when it’s not to your liking? 

i did say that & the proof I have is every time one of them opens their mouth a lie pops out you even said it yourself that both sides lied during the referendum campaign where they not mostly all politicians?

well more fool Cameron then isn’t it for calling it in the first place regardless of his reasoning but he did call for it & you willing like many others took part in it with no complaints at the time from yourself or anyone else for that matter I suspect? happily in the knowledge no doubt that it would be a landslide for the remain camp but shock of horrors the British people turned round & stuck two fingers up to all the arrogant remainer’s & the EU who all thought they’d never lose the vote...but they did & that’s democracy whether you like it or not?

if they are called I will try to organise protests outside polling stations but if you wish to exercise your right to vote then that is your free choice to which you have ever right to do so as I do too have the right to peaceful protest against.

again your 100 people in a room argument is floored as those 100 people in a room who do not exercise their free right to cast a vote that is there own fault so should have no complaints at the outcome neither those who voted against the result either as it just shows that they where unable to garner enough votes to swing the outcome in their favour.

 

 

Well put that person

[Alex]

This is real truth 

[SON OF GRIDKNOCKER]

 You’ve got to hand it to the good old Guardian when it comes to knowing which organ stops to pull out on the mighty Wurlitzer marked ‘Freedom of Information’.

Last week they got the Cabinet Office to reluctantly admit that £5.5-million a month is currently being spent on management consultants, in “providing extra skills in planning Brexit-related tasks.” Pull the other one missus. The only ‘skills’ these suits are providing is in their ability to bank their ill-gotten gains as fast as possible, because their government-appointed paymasters – the Brexit ministers who are currently running in and out of radio and TV studios - are a bunch of no-nothing dimwits.

[SON OF GRIDKNOCKER]

Sorry...'know-nothing'!

[Cambo]

What was agreed?
■   A Brexit extension "only as long as necessary" and "no longer than 31 October" to allow for the ratification of the withdrawal agreement
■   The UK "must hold the elections to the European Parliament" and if it fails to do this, the UK will leave on 1 June
■   The European Council reiterates there can be no reopening of the withdrawal agreement negotiations
Read the EU's conclusions here.

 

so if we fail to hold EU elections we must leave on June 1st....we the people should attempt to sabotage the elections by peaceful means in order to make sure these elections do not go ahead as it is a complete waste of time & money in my opinion.

[Roger]

If the EU Election takes place in the UK I will be voting for The Brexit Party Candidate. If he/she is standing. 

[Cambo]

10 hours ago, Roger said:

If the EU Election takes place in the UK I will be voting for The Brexit Party Candidate. If he/she is standing. 

& who will you vote for if they do not have a representative standing?....do you think whoever is standing that they will knock on your door Roger or even campaign in this area given that they will be hoping to become one of 7 mep’s representing the West Midlands which is the region Herefordshire comes under.

out of the 7 one comes from Herefordshire 

 

I can’t say I know anything of this person I’ve never seen them,spoken with neither can I ever recall them writing in the HT or even heard them speak on one of the local radio stations?

heres a link listing the others who I’ve also never heard anything about?

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/en/your-meps/uk_meps/west_midlands_region.html

 

 

[Roger]

Cambo ..... I've never voted in Euro Elections. I know they are Regional, as far as the UK is concerned. I have gone out of my way to avoid voting in that vote. If there is no Brexit Party Candidate in my voting area then I won't vote in the EU Election. But, of course, there might not be a vote ...... 

[megilleland]

Just watched Nigel Farage launching the Brexit Party, and introducing first European parliament candidates, Coventry, 12th April 2019.

Over the hour, while watching the video launch, 1245 other people had viewed it. Over the 24 hours since the video was launched 17011 have watched it. So maybe 875,000 views before the vote.

 

[Cambo]

12 hours ago, Roger said:

Cambo ..... I've never voted in Euro Elections. I know they are Regional, as far as the UK is concerned. I have gone out of my way to avoid voting in that vote. If there is no Brexit Party Candidate in my voting area then I won't vote in the EU Election. But, of course, there might not be a vote ...... 

Roger you are not alone in not voting in EU elections the turnout is traditionally low...in the UK the lowest turnout was 24% in 1999 in the last one in 2014 it was 35.60% which given the turnout for the referendum of 72.2% so say for argument sake that of the 48.1% who voted to remain there must be at least 12.5%  of those remain voters who did not take part in the last EU elections? Which I find incredible that people who what to stay in are kicking up a fuss about a second referendum when they can’t even be both to vote in EU elections!

 

 

 

http://www.ukpolitical.info/european-parliament-election-turnout.htm

[megilleland]

In the Daily Depress today:

YouGov's poll on April 10 to 11 - the first since Brexit was exteneded up until October 31 - shows Labour a clear leader with 24 percent of the public's backing. The Conservatives are in second place at 16 percent, said the poll of 1,843 people. That is a steep drop from the 2017 general election.

Meanwhile, Nigel Farage's Brexit Party, which was officially launched on Friday, is third with 15 percent backing, and UKIP is on 14 percent.
Another new party, Change UK, which includes Chuka Umunna among its number, are on seven percent. 

The Liberal Democrats are on eight percent, the same as the Greens, while the Scottish National Party and Plaid Cymru are both on six percent.

15th April - Farage's Brexit Launch has had 99,561 views in 4 days - at this rate nearly a million views possible (945,829). The problem remains that the vote will be split although the poll above was undertaken with only 1,843 people and this has put the wind up Theresa and her Tory cohorts.

 

[megilleland]

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Just watched Nigel Farage launching the Brexit Party, and introducing first European parliament candidates, Coventry, 12th April 2019.

Over the hour, while watching the video launch, 1245 other people had viewed it. Over the 24 hours since the video was launched 17011 have watched it. So maybe 875,000 views before the vote.

 

Up to 119,622 views this morning.