Colin James Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 The government in it's drive to reduce waste have imposed a charge of 5p on carrier bags, all proceeds to go to charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian symonds Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 I hope people realise that is is law and not done by the supermarkets to make money, in fact it is the government who will benefit from this, as that 5p includes VAT. So people, do not complain to stores or blame the checkout operator as they can not do anything about it, in fact giving a free bag will be against the law. Sainsburys 5p bags will be bags for life, they are a bit thicker than the single use bags, but the same size. So bring the bag bag when it wears out and you will get a new one. So single use bags in Sainsburys will be no more. I know this because I work there. I don't know what the other supermarkets are doing, but I don't think any other supermarket are doing bags for life for 5p. I think it is a good thing to be honest, too many people wanting a bag for a news paper or for one small item, also the English law for bags is not as strict as in Wales and Scotland. People will get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkester Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Although, if you go to the garage at Sainsbury's the chap behind the till has been trying to charge 5p for a bag since September 5th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 There are a few very specific exemptions. You will not be charged for plastic bags if you're buying: live aquatic creatures in water unwrapped blades, including axes, knives, and knife and razor blades uncooked meat, poultry or fish prescription medicine unwrapped loose seeds, flowers, bulbs, corns, rhizomes - as in roots, stems and shoots, such as ginger - or goods contaminated by soil, like potatoes or plants unwrapped ready-to-eat food for animal or human consumption - for example, chips, or food sold in containers not secure enough to prevent leakage during normal handling I'm not sure how this will work at the self serve. How will the machine know how many bags are being used or not being used? Will it have to ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian symonds Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Although, if you go to the garage at Sainsbury's the chap behind the till has been trying to charge 5p for a bag since September 5th... Really? We only got the bags in a couple of days ago, maybe he got mixed up. i only know a couple of people in the Garage and I know for sure they would not do it. i will ask about that tomorrow at work if I remember. I'm not sure how this will work at the self serve. How will the machine know how many bags are being used or not being used? Will it have to ask? At our place they are going to put the bags in a box under the machines and you take what you want and I think you either scan them as they will have a bar code or you just enter the amount you have got. My words was, yep that will work, not. But remember, if anyone decided that they was not going to pay for their bag and not bother to scan it and get found out, that is theft, is it really worth it for 5p? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 At our place they are going to put the bags in a box under the machines and you take what you want and I think you either scan them as they will have a bar code or you just enter the amount you have got. Good point. I've got a Morrison's plastic bag in the cupboard. Never noticed before but it's got a bar code on. I suppose it could be confusing if I take it back into Morrison's on the 5th to re-use it and they they think I'm stealing it if they didn't see me pull it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenda Powell Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 I have been paying for M&S bags for ages, they are bigger, and stronger, the one you get from Tesco are rubbish very thin and if you fill it to the top it then splits when you walk away from the till, you need two one in side the other to make it strong. I recycle my Tesco bags by putting the rubbish in them before they go into the black bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin James Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 I asked in Tesco this evening what about self service and I was informed that you will have to ask for a bag, then pay. Bags will not be there to just help yourself too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 I asked in Tesco this evening what about self service and I was informed that you will have to ask for a bag, then pay. Bags will not be there to just help yourself too. I think we might very well have to wait to see how this shakes out in a few days as that suggested practice seems time consuming. My guess is that it will end up depending on trust in the self service user to grab the bag and scan it. You will never have cameras and staff worrying over carrier bags (that are free today) when the vodka and cheese is going missing in different parts of the store! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian symonds Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Good point. I've got a Morrison's plastic bag in the cupboard. Never noticed before but it's got a bar code on. I suppose it could be confusing if I take it back into Morrison's on the 5th to re-use it and they they think I'm stealing it if they didn't see me pull it out. You have a point there, I presume they will notice that it is not flay and got creases in, where the new ones will look new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jango1969 Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Great idea apart from the penny in VAT on each 5 pence bag. Tesco are handing out free bags for life at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irena Sulecka Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Great idea apart from the penny in VAT on each 5 pence bag. Tesco are handing out free bags for life at the moment. I was under the impression that vat was not charged for charity payments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenknight Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 They have been doing this in Wales for ages. Occasionally I have used the big Asda up on the top of the Heads of the Valley road near the Tydfil and I have never seen trouble at the check out! If there was to be a revolt and anarchy over such dastardly deeds it would be here at Merthyr where a few weeks ago I saw diesel at £1.08. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian symonds Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I was under the impression that vat was not charged for charity payments? VAT is charged on the full price of the bag, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 They have been doing this in Wales for ages. About 4 years it's been in. I'm not sure if they have the same exemptions for goldfish and potatoes in Wales but you never hear about loads of Welsh people getting confused over carrier bags! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin James Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Only retailers that employ more than 250 full-time workers will need to begin charging their customers, and paper bags can continue to be handed out for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenda Powell Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Its not only supermarkets that are charging, I went into Bonmarshe at the weekend and the assistant told me they will be charging for their bags as of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Its not only supermarkets that are charging, I went into Bonmarshe at the weekend and the assistant told me they will be charging for their bags as of today. They employ over 4000 people nationwide so they have no choice but to charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jango1969 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I grew up in Wales and Roger I, can confirm it didn't confuse me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I used the Hereford Morrison's self service tills tonight. There are 4 which are soon to increase to 6. Anyhow. All of the carrier bags have been removed from every self serve till. I asked the monitor fella what happens if I needed one? He said he would have to go away and get one (or however many I needed) and then come back and scan it through the till himself to make sure it was paid for. Or he would give it to me and stand at the till to watch me scan it. He said that they would be fined if they didn't follow the rules' to the letter. It had been ruled out to trust the customer to select a bag as previously and then scan it. We quickly worked out he had to do that for all 4 tills on top of authorising booze and dealing with the screens dealing with all the 'take the last item out of the bag' error message type stuff. As I left all of the other three tills had people just balancing stuff on top of each other in the now bag less bagging areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAF Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Retailers can choose who the money goes too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Some shops have vegetable aisles with the really thin bags on a roll (with handles). The one's you put yer sprouts in. They are technically 'carrier bags' .... There is going to have to be some serious monitoring of the self serve area of shops to make sure none of those slip through the net! Govt. Website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragwert Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 5p a bag......Don't think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 5p a bag......Don't think so Looks like a Morrison's hand basket .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian symonds Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Its not only supermarkets that are charging, I went into Bonmarshe at the weekend and the assistant told me they will be charging for their bags as of today. I wonder if Primark is as their bags are paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian symonds Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Some shops have vegetable aisles with the really thin bags on a roll (with handles). The one's you put yer sprouts in. They are technically 'carrier bags' .... There is going to have to be some serious monitoring of the self serve area of shops to make sure none of those slip through the net! Govt. Website If you put say some loose baking spuds, the bag is free, but if you put some prepackage carrots in you will have to pay for the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAF Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 I got an email today, asking me to put forward my suggestions that my local tesco can donate their 5ps to for local causes. Suggestions please. Every little helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 I was in Asda tonight at the kiosk. The woman in front of me was buying a magazine and 4 x 500 ml cans of lager and she asked for a bag. The Asda lady serving reached underneath the counter and produced some unbranded micro thin bags on a roll and handed one over which looked 50/50 if it could ever handle 4 big cans and so the customer asked for a second to 'double bag'. That added up to 10p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jango1969 Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Primark gave my daughter a free paper bag today. How much is 70 microns though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian symonds Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Primark gave my daughter a free paper bag today. How much is 70 microns though? Paper bags are free and do not come under the charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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