Paul Jones

Thanks Colin, I haven't actually contacted CSPM, I went through the landlord and he got the two tickets rescinded. CSPM got my husbands details (he is regd keeper) through DVLA. My parking contravention was for parking without displaying a valid permit in our organisations designated space and as they are members of BPA think they will hound me!!!

You will receive several threatening letters but follow Colin's instructions and IGNORE THEM ALL. 

I will be in town Saturday night so I may drop in but I will NOT be eating! Veggie and Vegan food, sounds delicious NOT.

Over 900 signatures already and climbing 

Sorry ... I think I was typing as you were posting ... I'm not convinced at all that 'visibility splays' are being addressed properly as you have raised that one ... For the uninitiated that means the views at a road junction and such like ... 

 

I don't think the natives are arsed about what any sort of contract with Balfour Beatty says ... Grass is green and it grows and it should be dealt with. Incidentally Balfour Beatty were up my way the other week cutting some grass round Churchill House (now operated by the Tech. College I think) so there must be some sort of paperwork about them doing these open spaces ...

 

I feel a bit sorry for Hereford City Council as they seem to be getting moans directed at them when they haven't got a budget for grass.

They have got the budget for new offices in Plough Lane though eh! I don't feel at all sorry for them. 

I parked my car this morning and attempted to pay with my debit card, stupid machines only take cash but there are no ATM's! What the hell? 

Signed immediately.   

I don't think so no. The level of violence is the same, dare say increased, but it occurs indoors rather than outdoors now.

 

That the staggered closing times and leaving of clubs seems to have reduced violence on the streets.

 

If we conclude that violence occurs when crowds gather. Then it would make sense that the street violence that occurs now would be in places of high density. So I'm guessing that if you look at the statistics now, you'll find that street violence will be occurring around places like the Lunch Box, Subway and Petrol Station.

 

Therefore, it would make sense to allow other food shops to open, for kebabs etc, as this would increase the number of possible gathering points, ultimately reducing the density of each site and, in turn, a reduction in violent outbreaks.

 

If that one person who, in the club, wanted to punch you, still wants to punch you outside, right now, the threat still exists as everyone must go to the same food source. If there were 10 places for food to go to (over, lets say 1), the risk of the threat is diminished by 10x

 

Ya digg!

Absolutely spot on.

If that one person who, in the club, wanted to punch you, still wants to punch you outside, right now, the threat still exists as everyone must go to the same food source. If there were 10 places for food to go to (over, lets say 1), the risk of the threat is diminished by 10x

 

Ya digg!

 

 

 

 

Bio - I nearly agree with you.

 

But play this out.

 

Do you see where I am coming from in that if McDs gets to stay open till 3/4am, a majority of the customers that use the local stores will go to the national chain, sutting down the local business operators.

 

Then it will be one meeting place for hot food and fights, no choice though, but I would guess McDs would become an extention to the night out.

At least they have fixed seating.

 

But the end result would still mean - no choice.

Personally, I hope that McDonalds are allowed to open in Hereford 24/7 but I suspect it would be the Belmont drive thru, knowing Hereford council, that said, at least it would open the door for the other trades to apply for an extension of opening hours. This city seriously needs to get into the 21st century!!

Sorry you think I was boasting, Paul. I was just trying to inform the debate with some facts. Incidentally, another interesting fact is that if you research the customer base of our night time economy you'll find that we're seeing a much wider geographical pull into our Clubs. Leominster obviously, since Euphoria closed, but Crickhowell, Brecon, Abergavenny etc. Play's a big draw 'beyond the City', as is Jailhouse for it's specialist music nights and Mamma Jamma's for the same reason - all good Clubs with a very different appeal to discerning customers. This is a great debate that has run and run, but I'm not sure of the premise that people don't go out in Hereford because the Chip Shop is closed at 3am, but go to Gloucester instead. Yes, it's an inconvenience if you want some hot food. So were the running battles in Commercial Road associated with hot food eateries at 3am. Maybe people miss them - there's not been one for years... In the meantime, The solution to this is for the pre-existing hot food eateries to apply for an extension of their hours. Their willingness to do so will depend upon their worries about a major national chain e.g. McDonalds doing likewise, and in doing so changing the late night food dynamics irrevocably forever. #justsaying

Some interesting details George, I hope it did not come across like I was having a pop at you because that was not my intention.

I have have a good read through all of the points raised in this very interesting debate and I just don't get it, yes, when everyone left the clubs all at the same time 1am and converged into Commercial Rd, I can see why fights would break out, crowds of people, drink fuelled is often a recipe for trouble, however, the laws about drinking times changed some years ago, so now people do not generally leave the clubs in droves, simply because there is no need too anymore, so personally, I think many issues discussed ended back then and ceased when they changed and relaxed the licensing laws but this around the same time that the council with police advice put the curfew in place, surely they should of done this before the law changed? I see no real need to have restrictions on hot food being available after 1.30am, I really don't.  I worked in Hereford driving taxi's for several years and gave it up only a month ago and to be honest, times have changed a lot and I see more trouble outside the DHSS than outside any hot food establishment on the weekend. 

Hot food places stay open in other places, so why not here?

For what it's worth, stupid frustration is absolutely right. Best ask the late night refreshment house proprietors themselves. Their major concern is that a large multinational food chain opens within the same time parameters as theirs, and they lose market-share and their current business models become unviable. That's why there have been a lack of legal challenges to the restrictions imposed to date. Lastly, a visit to crime mapper or comparable A & E stats for the Night Time Economy will show that Hereford has an enviably low crime rate for Disorder in a public place compared to statistically comparator conurbations. This has got a lot to do with HAND Pubwatch, it's own Alcohol Diversion Scheme, Street Pastors, and close supervision of Licensed Premises by the relevant authorities. This comparably low level of disorder is something this City can justly be proud of, some might say.

You could also argue that everyone buggers off elsewhere at the weekend because Hereford is crap, hence the low numbers you boast about!

Welcome Paul !!

 

It's always lovely to have new members who actually post!

 

So many have signed up lately......C'mon you guys! Get posting, and join in the debates!!

Cheers dippyhippy for the welcome, I have been reading and lurking for some time and this topic hit a nerve so had to add my bit. 

Hereford is sat in the 60's and needs to move with the times, not being able to purchase a curry after 1am is crap, we came out of Fusion at about 2am this morning and everywhere was closed and I mean everywhere. Only place open in town was the lunchbox offering rolls, it was packed with people and we decided to walk home, ended up making bacon sandwiches because we had the munchies. It's just spoils a good night out being so restricted, council needs get up to speed and start looking after their rate paying tenants.