Colin James Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Is it me or have they got nothing better to do? I have heard of lessor sentences handed out for much more serious crimes and I am not a smoker. Seems a little harsh to me. A Hereford taxi driver has been prosecuted for smoking in his cab. Tony Hodson, a taxi driver licensed by Herefordshire Council, pleaded guilty to the offence at Hereford Magistrates’ Court yesterday. The offence was reported by an off-duty council officer who drove past the taxi on Edgar Street in August last year. The taxi driver was awarded a six-month conditional discharge, and was required to pay £250 towards the council’s court costs. He was unrepresented and did not make any comments about the offence, other than to say that he felt the costs were excessive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Excessive to me, especially when others get away with a lot less for bigger crimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Is it me or have they got nothing better to do? I have heard of lessor sentences handed out for much more serious crimes and I am not a smoker. The actual sentence is a 6 month conditional discharge. Which means he has zero punishment if he keeps his nose clean for 6 months. It's virtually as low as it gets. Other than an absolute discharge. The £250 costs do seem high as the case sounds as simple as could be. One witness. No massive enquiry to undertake and you could probably read and digest the case file in 2 minutes. I see a fella got sentenced to a conditional discharge on 19th February at the same court (link) for a fighting related incident. He had to pay £135 costs. All a bit random as to what costs are awarded it would appear. I see the informant for this smoking offence was an off duty Council employee. I wonder if you would get a court case if it was just a general shopper having a moan? Why was the Council person so aggrieved that they felt that they had to make it all official ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 By the way .... The Council operate a taxi penalty point scheme where a driver gets hauled up before the Regulatory Committee if they hit 12 Council points in a 12 month period. Getting caught smoking in the cab is a 4 point offence. So you should be able to get caught smoking twice and still avoid an appearance before The Council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 The actual sentence is a 6 month conditional discharge. Which means he has zero punishment if he keeps his nose clean for 6 months. It's virtually as low as it gets. Other than an absolute discharge. The £250 costs do seem high as the case sounds as simple as could be. One witness. No massive enquiry to undertake and you could probably read and digest the case file in 2 minutes. I see a fella got sentenced to a conditional discharge on 19th February at the same court (link) for a fighting related incident. He had to pay £135 costs. All a bit random as to what costs are awarded it would appear. I see the informant for this smoking offence was an off duty Council employee. I wonder if you would get a court case if it was just a general shopper having a moan? Why was the Council person so aggrieved that they felt that they had to make it all official ? You have to be pretty sad to go to the lengths of a court case, oh well it takes all sorts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubique Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Perhaps this eagled eyed Council Employee should take a walk along Bewell St , observe the illegal parking and advise the relevant department - or sort out the chaos with parking in Widemarsh St. especially during the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Wright Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 He would of almost been better off smoking a spliff. http://www.herefordtimes.com/news/14362880.Man_fined___200_for_driving_with_cannabis_in_his_system/?ref=mr&lp=6 Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin James Posted March 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 He would of almost been better off smoking a spliff. http://www.herefordtimes.com/news/14362880.Man_fined___200_for_driving_with_cannabis_in_his_system/?ref=mr&lp=6 I had only just read this article, so you beat me to it. You could not make it up, the system is not consistent at all and needs a complete review in my opinion. This man who was ALREADY on a conditional discharge from last year gets fined £30 for stealing meat and £30 for breach of is CD, how is this consistent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 This man who was ALREADY on a conditional discharge from last year gets fined £30 for stealing meat and £30 for breach of is CD, how is this consistent? The chap in that Aldi meat case obviously likes meat. This is him in a 2009 case in a Somerset court. Warren John Jewell, 38, of Moorland Road, Bridgwater, stole meat from Sainsbury’s, community order with 120-day curfew from 7pm to 7am; £43 costs (G); breached conditional discharge, re-sentenced for original offence of damaging property, community order with 120-day curfew. It's quite clear that petty thieving really is quite a good way of offending as nothing really happens if you get caught. In fact it seems that the more you get caught the less and less the punishments become. What you have to be really careful about is not getting caught for litter/smoking offences as the magistrates throw the book at you. Or for minor motoring offences as well .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubique Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Well researched Roger - just shows that it appears that the Courts and this Council grab easy money . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Well researched Roger - just shows that it appears that the Courts and this Council grab easy money . The taxi driver was used as a cash cow to subsidise the running of the court system ~ in my opinion. Same as the hard up woman who conned Hereford Asda out of £75 worth of food with a gift card she got by returning stuff she had never bought. She's obviously got little money or no money so the court let her off. But she had to pay £100 to keep the lights on at the court. HT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin James Posted March 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 This taxi driver was also stung by the courts, priorities all all wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.Butt Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 You are better off being a thieving drug addict another slap on the wrist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 You are better off being a thieving drug addict another slap on the wrist. Yeah .... Good job she wasn't caught smoking in the wrong place or littering .... Otherwise that would have landed her in some serious bother ... I think they probably let her off this meat theft as she probably hasn't paid off her fines from her last appearance at the same court three months ago. Where she was sentenced for doing the same sort of thing at a different shop. Link. In fact she's still on a community order for pulling that stunt. Whatever one of those is ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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