Alex

I like this idea, do we have anymore updates or is it still early days?

Very good

The Communities and Local Government Department says 14 high-rise buildings in nine local authorities have failed cladding tests. All Labour run authorities, all cladding fitted in 2005/06 under a Labour Government. Pre economic crash, pre Cameron, pre austerity. Oh, and one authority is Islington. Their MP for 34 years has been Jeremy Corbyn. 

 

A row has broken out between Labour’s new Kensington MP Emma Dent Coad and her Conservative predecessor over the Grenfell Tower fire. 

 

Ms Dent Coad, below, has accused Tory-led Kensington and Chelsea council of failures that led to the blaze, claiming “poor-quality materials and construction standards have played a part in this hideous and unforgivable eventâ€.

 

But as a councillor she was on Kensington and Chelsea’s housing scrutiny committee, which oversees “community safety issuesâ€, until May 2014.

 

A 2014/15 report, in which she is named, says the committee scrutinised work on Grenfell Tower.

 

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They are all as bad as one another all trying to gain one over the other. 

I am very British and very patriotic, I love the Royal family (immediate members) and all that they stand for and I am more than happy to sing the national anthem. I have no problem if they up date the anthem to something else but no bothered either way.

 Of course it won't! 

 

The law says we have to wear seat belts in cars but it does not stop accidents or people being killed does it? But it reduces the chances massively!  

I agree, time to change tactics. 

Time to arm all police and if they don't like it then they should look for a different career, the world has changed and we as a nation need to change with it

These explain a few things

https://www.confused.com/on-the-road/driving-law/new-speeding-laws-fines-come-into-force

or

http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/23/new-speeding-fine-laws-come-in-tomorrow-heres-what-you-need-to-know-6592386/

or

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/advice/the-truth-about-speeding-fines/

Still no ATM machines! I had to walk across to Tesco yesterday because the car park machine wouldn't accept my card (warn out chip). I know there was a planning application sometime ago which was refused for some reason, so that's it? No ATM's ?? 

How is it people's fault that shops are closing?

For not shopping in them I guess but that said, I get fed up of going into shops not finding my size clothes and being told by staff 'oh you can order online', they keep saying **** like that and they too will have no jobs! 

Please, no, no, no! 

Jim will be getting my vote, so who do you suggest then?

twowheelsgood, Charles Nichols has joined the Independents he was out leafleting for them in the recent by-election. I was told this evening that Graham has stepped down because he and his family are going to live in Shropshire in 6 weeks time.

Charles has joined the independents this is new to me?

Good luck to Graham in his move to Shropshire

At least they have the sense to do the works at night. 

A national survey of police officers across England and Wales last year showed that 20% wanted to be routinely issued with a firearm and six out of 10 wanted a Taser.

I don't think they should have the choice, you cannot join the police in the majority of Europe and say 'oh by the way I don't want to carry a gun' if thats ok. It is part of their uniform, the same as soldiers.

I wonder what the result of the he same survey for soldiers would reveal?

So why is it not like that is Poland, Spain, France, Ukraine, Russia and the rest of Europe?

 

The difference in the US is that the general public can carry weapons as it is in the constitution unlike in Europe, so your arguments is flawed from the offset.

I agree Colin.

Question, when they escorted Theresa May from parliament today why did her security team have firearms in hand? Apparently we don't need the police to carry firearms in the UK. 

Police should be armed, period!

Sorry to disagree with everyone's comments but I have signed the petition , Donald Trump is dangerous!!! What I read in the press today he is not popular with the Royal family.

So how does not being popular with the royal family make him dangerous? 

I love him, he has done what many would love to do but don't have the balls to do it!

Alex, I'm not entirely sure I completely understand you, but whatever it is you've explained to me, Adrian seems to agree with you which, unsurprisingly, leads me to disagree with you both and here's why.

Any abuse, if it's tainted by a racist tone is not acceptable, and unlike you both, I do not think that our society has a 'massively over the top reaction'. I believe that our zero tolerance toward racial abuse is right, fully justified and not as you've implied massively over the top. Why on earth you've extrapolated my comment, had a think about it and then associated it with what I've said with the terrible times of our black sportsman is something I can't quite grasp. Why lad do you think that societies reaction to racism in sport is massively over the top?

Anyways, back to the profanities howled within the confines of Edgar Street or any other football stadia, I repeat, I'm all for it. The more colourful the better as far as I'm concerned and it's existence and use within Edgar Street doesn't cause me one sleepless moment in my nights sleep. Until the day, 'You big fat Ninny', catches on, and it ain't going to, we'll continue to use bad language to express ourselves whilst watching our team.

When I see massively over the top, I actually mean people use the race card all too often, hence massively over the top. Of course racist remarks are totally unacceptable 100% but my point is when is something not acceptable? So you can swear and throw abuse at players and the ref as long as you don't bring colour into it? Surely hurling abuse that you are all for is in a very grey area, so in your book you can shout 'You F'ing cheating Bastard' and that is all okay? I do not agree, they amount to the same in my book, only thing you have done is not used the word Black or something else that would be considered racist or hate.

BillB, I'm sure you are right lad but I can't bring myself to agree with you. I'm with the new Chairman on this. As a society we've become obsessed in sanitising just about everything just in case some poor soul takes offence and consequently we've allowed everything to drift to a point where it's all been taken away and legislated against to ensure we evolve into perfect human beings and never do or say anything wrong.

When I'm sat in the Merton stand, invariably freezing, because I feel the cold more than I once did, I actively encourage the use of profanity amongst my number. The ruder the better as far as I'm concerned! It's of no concern to me when the Linesman, the Ref or a member of the opposing team have their parenthood questioned, are invited to violate themselves and masturbate or instructed to clear off in the worst possible way, because the game, the match and our place in the stands is still one of the last places within our regimented society where you can be and act like you still are a working class person.

Try as they might, those that want the perfectly behaved crowd who gather in congregation at the mighty, legendary, history making, noise making, howling, screaming, earth shaking E.Street crowd, will never succeed in socially engineering the people to howl, 'you dirty rotten stinker', instead of good old working class straight to the point swearing like, 'You dirty fouling cheating F'ing Bastard'. Anything less, and diluted, just doesn't sound right as far as I'm concerned and so, I say, let the swearing continue and long may it be a part of my few hours spent watching the rise of Hereford Football Club.

You cannot have it both ways, it is either acceptable to hurl abuse or it is not, where do you draw the line? John Barnes suffered loads of racial abuse, now that is a big no no (anything to do with race has a massively over the top reaction in my view) but you appear to be condoning shouting 'You dirty fouling cheating F'ing Bastard' but put the word BLACK in front of the word F'ing and you are in deep trouble.

Swearing and shouting vile abuse these days at any public event is not acceptable to me.

This is good to see, something positive for Hereford, not sure if I actually prefer to call it The Old House or The Black and White House, either or works.

The Old House for me 

You have never fallen out with my bobby, we may not always agree but never fallen out. Happy new year to you and all HV members 

The same as above, I have not fallen out with you bob, have a good one 

Happy New Year one and all all the best from Alex 

Alex, I fully grasp your point of view and completely understand it. Let me say this one last thing. You, me and everyone else thinks that we're fully enlightened by events that the media delivers us. We're not. Not at all. We're driven to form our opinions by one narrative, and that's the narrative the media choose to give us. We've no choice in the matter. They tell us what to believe and it's nigh on impossible not to go with it. None of us are unaffected by its influence and for the time being, the narrative is Muslims are out to get us, want to take over the world and parts of the western world will become Caliphates.

Every single day you can read some piece about something negative that confirms the fear and loathing people now have for the Islamic world and its full impact is that our views have been distorted by a piece of news that didn't quiet give us the full story, but instead, left out the parts that didn't fit the narrative that is, 'make them frightened'.

A silly and unrelated example can easily be found here in Hereford. How many good people in Hereford believe that organised groups of East Europeans are flouting the law, getting rich selling us all illicit tobacco and cheap vodka. Of course, some don't believe this damaging narrative because we know better. But, the vast majority, who never read HV will believe this narrative that the EU migrants are a problem and nothing, absolutely nothing will change their minds and undo the damage that's now been done,

Alex, I dont want to fall out with you or anyone else and so I'll end this exchange now, wishing you, your family and everyone else a very happy Christmas.

I will not fall out with you Bobby, everyones view will differ, but on the subject of EU migrants in Hereford, these people portray themselves as Polish, Czech, which does not help but is an obvious front for illegal activities, but anyone with half a brain only has to look at these people to realise that they are obviously not from Poland or an East European country, so this has nothing to do with the media does it?

It has been proved that they are migrants that came here from Iraq (mostly) or Albania and they are flouting the law but many people are too frightened that the law will jump on them if they say that these dodgy people are 'muslim', it is easier to blame a fellow European. As soon as a mosque is attacked or someone says something about a muslim the police are all over them like a rash, freedom of speech is non existent in many of these cases.

I have a Satellite dish on a motor, so I pick up news feeds from around the globe and also some uncensored feeds, I am fully aware of any propaganda but I have to say, most of these attacks do appear to be from Muslim people whether we like it or not, anyway I would like to wish you and your family and safe and Merry Christmas 

Alex, Yes, I'd agree that Germany needs cheap labour to prop up its economy and the edition of a grateful migrant inflation of the populus would have provided Germany with a much needed convenient boost. But, you underestimate the legacy of what World War Two and it's accompanying shame has bequeathed to the German people. They are driven to behave better and be more welcoming than other Countries in Europe. It's this, more than anything, that's sets them apart and compells them to take the moral high ground and behave in this way. Angela Merkle is a daughter of her times, saddled with the guilt of her nations past, she and many, many other German citizens decided upon this humanitarian step that's now unraveled and it most definitely was a bold and kind Christian act of kindness directed toward a people who were, are and will likely to continue to be slaughtered by forces who've got little or no thought for human life.

Ask yourself this Alex. Just because the migrants are Muslim and just because Islamic extremism has gripped the world with its barbarity and evil and displayed levels of shocking violence toward their fellow man hitherto not seen since the last World War, should we in the West simply shrug our shoulders, do nothing and let them all die just in case some of their number turn out to be a malevolent force?

If the answer is, we pull up the drawbridge, let them get slaughtered and look after our own,,,,,and I suspect many would go with this option that I do grasp and understand, I say it's a sad indictment on us and our values and our belief that we are better than that.

I am not saying pull up the drawbridge, it is obviously to late for that option, but they should have done checks before ANYONE was allowed to enter! This is basic security measures.

I have just flown back into the UK from a recent trip to Spain, I am a EU citizen and guess what? I was checked several times before I left the UK and even though I had only got onto a plane, I was checked again when I landed in Spain, then I was checked yet again when I left Spain and again when I landed back in the UK, I reckon I wouldn't of got anywhere near airside without my passport or documentation proving who I was and yes you now going to say many lost their ID in the rush to escape all this persecution in Africa, oops I mean Pakistan, sorry, I meant to say Albania, or was it Afghanistan or Morocco nope maybe it was Tunisia oh no, that was it, Syria!

When Angela Merkle opened her doors she acted as a humanitarian, fuelled I think by two noble causes. To help the troubled Middle East region and to set an example to the rest of Europe that this is the way to behave in the modern world, and that Germany, with its dark past, has learned its historical lessons and intends to learn from them.

Of course, in a democracy, one as modern as Germany, there's a price to pay from the electorate if things go wrong, and sadly, near on tragically, things have gone badly wrong on an epic scale and the Chancellor will inevitably go the way of many political Giants. She'll be shown the door.

I completely understand the feelings of those who appear to be saying 'told you so'. When you consider the Cologne attacks on women, the murderous attacks upon mainland Europe and this latest act of medieval barbarism, it's no wonder people have these feelings. Course, people who see only bad in Muslim people and fear them must understand that they have to manage these perfectly normal feelings of hatred toward a group that is in global turmoil and grasp the notion that these feelings of mistrust, hatred and suspicion are the result of social behaviour that is prevelant in every single society, that is, if they look different, act different, are unlike us and not conforming to what our way of life expects, then nationalistic feelings will take root and very bad things happen.

The simple truth is the Islamic religion is undergoing it's Reformation and, whilst Christians had there's five hundred years ago, the Muslims are having there's now in the full glare of the Internet and the watching liberal thinking Western world and that, coupled with so many aggravating factors has resulted in this terrible carnage, loss of life and misery to much of the World.

The question now is, what do the western leaders do next?. My guess is they'll do what will win them your vote. They'll introduce legislation covering this, that and the other, denounce groups who want to stop the madness, label them far right because it's all so easy to do that, and then leave people of all colours and religious persuasion to just muddle on and get on with it.

Interestingly for me, when the nations of the E8 made it abundantly clear of how they viewed these migrants, even before any problems, and they didn't want them living within their society, my initial reaction was they've learned nothing of value from history and they are racist toward people of difference. Now, after all that's happened, I still have the same view but, this feeling of growing nationalism and the us and them ideology is,for good or for bad, a trait and human characteristic that's deeply embedded in every single one of us and it's quite simply the way we all are.

Personally, I don't fear the Islamic people and I certainly don't associate the murderous barbaric acts with the migrants fleeing their homeland in tiny boats. That said, many do and I do understand why they don't want to help because of 'events'. Tragically though, many people, good people, they held these firm feelings of hatred and mistrust well before Angela Merkles social engineering experiment went so badly wrong and its this, this humanistic trait of how we see difference that is sure to make the lives of good Muslim people that little harder to enjoy and be able to live in peace. As for us, we in the West, if we cannot see that little children of Islamic persuasion need to be saved and given aid, because amongst their number their might be a killer or rapist amongst them, and essentially that's now the problem, then we are no more socially advanced than the medieval barbaric religious zealot monsters who attack our way of life.

Bobby, I do not buy into the notion that Angela Merkel opened her doors she acted as a humanitarian, fuelled I think by two noble causes. To help the troubled Middle East region and to set an example to the rest of Europe that this is the way to behave in the modern world, and that Germany, with its dark past, has learned its historical lessons and intends to learn from them, she did this because Germany needed cheap labour to help their dwindling economy and there is nothing humanitarian about that! That is my opinion and I share this view with many other people.

I agree many thousands of these people are genuine refugees but equally many thousands will not be genuine refugees! There are obviously terrorists disguised as refugees too, over a million people, yes a million! All lets into Europe without any checks, Angela Merkel has blood on her hands and there is a lot more still to come, but next year I will be surprised if she does not loose power, German people are fed up with her and what then? Yes she will just slide into the history books for someone else to clear up her mess, which is probably an impossible task now.

Yes, of course, but not as a convenience store, or only with conditions e.g. no tobacco sales.

Sounds a good idea but I feel it is flawed, unfair on any future legit business person, based on this then half of Eign Gate would be empty.

Personally, I understand there is no real easy option but Police and Trading Standards, Customs etc, should have powers to close a business down immediately! They would not get away with this in some other European countries, they are taking the pi*% and everyone knows it.