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  1. English Heritage (Designation) Reject at Initial Assessment Report 13 February 2014 who both restored and designed a number of buildings including Redwood House, formerly Malvern Rural Hospital in 1868 (Grade II), designed the building in an English Domestic Revival style to appear as a family home. It was opened in 1877 and the two-storey, three-bay home is constructed of local red brick with blue-brick dressings and a slate tile roof. The tall, brick chimney stacks have been truncated and the rooflight has been removed and replaced with dormer windows to the side elevations. The sash windows are beneath cambered heads with alternating red and blue brick voussoirs and dressed stone springers. The moulded brick jambs have stepped bricks at the cill and impost. The outer windows to the first floor have been widened. The former gabled entrance has been altered to form a bay window with a lean-to roof. The building now forms the central wing of a larger complex. The building was extended to the rear (east) in 1886 to form a two-storey cross wing comprising a school room to the ground floor and a dormitory to the first floor. The cross wing was designed by William Chick (later known as Cheiake) who also added a block to the north which included an infirmary, laundry (with associated chimney) and workshops. Both additions match the architectural style of the central wing and the chimney to the laundry survives. Chick was the Country Surveyor (1862-1892) and is well-known for his church restorations and his additions to E W Pugin’s Convent of Our Lady of Charity, Bartestree (Grade II). In 1895, the south wing, designed by G H Godsell, was added and formed the Meadows Memorial Hall and its architectural style reflects that of the late-C19 board schools. Its principal elevation (west) has double-height, stone mullion and transom windows with leaded lights and cambered heads. Above the windows is a decorative stone scroll with ‘The Meadows Memorial’ in raised lettering. This is partially missing due to spalled stone. There are two lateral brick stacks to its north elevation and a square cupola with arcading to the ridge of the roof. To the south elevation are three stone mullion and transom windows beneath gables which rise above the eaves line. The windows are separated by offset buttresses with stone caps. In 1902 further alterations were undertaken including the Palladian-style link building between the central and north wings which included a carriage entrance that has been glazed, and extensions to the north wing. The Working Boys’ Home was closed in 1933 and in 1934 it was converted to council offices. The conversion included alterations to the plan form and some extension to the north wing. Internally, the plan form and circulation of the building has been altered by the relocation of the entrance and the re-ordering of the internal spaces to form offices. The double-height memorial hall has had a floor inserted to the east end but its timber-boarded roof, supported on stone corbels, is extant. There is some survival of internal joinery but much has been removed, as well as the fireplaces. Criteria/Assessment: with reference to the Principles of Selection for Listing Buildings (2010) and the English Heritage Selection Guide for Health and Welfare Buildings (April 2011) when assessing children’s homes for designation consideration should be given to date, rarity, architectural quality, overall planning and degree of intactness. The Council Offices, formerly the Working Boys’ Home is not recommended for designation, for the following principal reasons: * Architectural quality: although the building is designed by well-known local architects and exhibits architectural quality, the original building has been altered and significantly extended, and despite attempts to unify the buildings through the use of matching materials and details, the 1902 additions are Palladian rather than Domestic Revival in style and contrast with the earlier buildings, and there are some insensitive mid-C20 additions to the rear; * Planning interest: the building has evolved over time and it lacks cohesion; * Alteration: whilst it has claims to historic interest as a former working boys’ home, evidence of how the building functioned has been eroded by later alteration, particularly to the interior where the original plan form and circulation are no longer legible and the function of the different elements has been lost. Conclusion: the local architectural and historic interest of the former Working Boys’ Home in Hereford is recognised by its inclusion in a conservation area. However, the building is not sufficiently intact or of sufficient architectural quality to merit statutory designation. Page 2 of 3
  2. Annex 1 Review Criteria and Process A review will only be carried out in the following circumstances: (1) there is evidence that the original decision has been made wrongly. Examples would include: - where there was a factual error, eg. the wrong building was listed; or - where there has been some irregularity in the process which has affected the outcome, eg. relevant English Heritage (Designation) Reject at Initial Assessment Report 13 February 2014 Application Name: Number: Type: Heritage Category: Address: The Boys Home, Bath Street, Hereford 482958 New Listing Council Offices,,The Boys Home,,Bath Street,Hereford Council Offices,,Bath Street,Hereford County District District Type County of Herefordshire Unitary Authority Recommendation: Reject Assessment Parish Hereford Context and background: we have been asked to consider the Council Offices, formerly the Working Boys’ Home, in Hereford for designation. The building has been used as council offices since 1934 but no longer meets the council’s requirements. It is soon to become redundant, and consideration is being given to the re-use of the building or the re-development of the site. The building lies within the Central Hereford Conservation Area. History and Details: during the second half of the C19 there was a drive towards finding means to remove children from the workhouse, initially by philanthropists, and later among a wider constituency. The idea was to allow children to escape the cycle of poverty by moving them to a more usual domestic life and thus better fulfil their potential. A variety of approaches were promoted, including cottage homes, where groups of houses were constructed in rural locations to provide self-contained settlements for cared-for children; boarding-out within individual foster-families; emigration; and scattered homes within the community. Working boys’ homes were established to provide boys, typically from cottage homes, with training in a skill or trade. The boys would be encouraged to gain employment whilst at the home and a proportion of their salary would pay for their board. Typically, boys stayed at the home until they were settled in an apprenticeship or other work, or until they reached the age of eighteen. Working boys’ homes were largely considered to be successful establishments and continued to be used until the 1970s. The Working Boys’ Home in Hereford was established in 1874 by Arthur Grenville Levason when two destitute boys were given a home in a rented cottage. In the same year the Hereford Society for Aiding the Industrious, a philanthropic organisation established in 1841 by the Reverend John Venn, sold their land on Bath Street (which was being used to provide allotments) to enable a purpose-built working boys’ home to be erected for boys aged nine to fourteen. Rev’d Venn continued to have an active involvement in the running of the home until his death in 1890. The Hereford architect George Haddon, a prolific architect
  3. She is very helpful & did tell me not to hesitate to contact her if I need any more assistance.
  4. 13 February 2014 Dear Mr Hayes, Former Working Boys' Home, Bath Street, Hereford, Herefordshire I am writing to inform you that we have carried out an initial assessment to consider whether the above building should be added to the List of Buildings of Special Architectural or Historic Interest. The Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport has asked us to consider this application in our role as the Government’s statutory adviser on the historic environment with responsibility for listing. We have now considered the application and completed an assessment of the building based on the material provided. The Secretary of State has decided not to add The Boys Home, Bath Street, Hereford to the List at this time. The reasons for this decision are set out in the attached report. If you consider that this decision has been wrongly made you may contact the Department for Culture, Media and Sport within 28 days of the date of this letter to request that the Secretary of State review the decision. An example of a decision made wrongly would be where there was a factual error or an irregularity in the process which affected the outcome. You may also ask the Secretary of State to review the decision if you have any significant evidence relating to the special architectural or historic interest of the building which was not previously considered. Further details of the review criteria and process and how to request a review are contained in the annex to this letter.
  5. I'm not sure if that's pos? dippy as I think HCS appeal the decision & it was rejected by the minster for sport culture & media i can't remember his name? who's job it was to review case. I know this as I did ring up english heritage & spoke to a lovely lady Danielle lipscombe (who is in charge of the west of England) who told me any new info should be put in writing & sent to the minster of sports & things! She also sent me a report on why it was rejected by them.
  6. Apologise slight error in last post supposed to say "I hope you both get elected"
  7. To be fair to mark smartieno he doesn't get paid a lot & he doesn't claim a lot of expensive. I've checked out HC website you can find out who gets wot & how much they claim! The thing is mark is fighting against a tidal surge & wot we need is people like him to stand for councillors so that they can fight back against the injustices that go on with local authorities. So I'm very happy to hear you will be standing in next yrs elections where I'm sure that both you & mark will find your an asset to one another should you not get elected which I hope you both will??!!
  8. & a breakfast bar & kitchen well fancy that treating themselves to bacon sandwich's @ our expense… they might as well have stuck a bar in while they were @ it so as they could have a drink on us all too?!
  9. Yea there looking for a seven figure sum for worcester fire station & are willing to wait a year to 18 months to secure the right deal for the public. there lucky HC are not involved in getting the best deal cos there be no chance of that ever happening?!
  10. Yes just in case he ever needs another back operation it would come in hand then?
  11. Just copied this from worcester evening news WORCESTER'S iconic fire station is finally going onto the market - amid hopes it could be sold for a massive sum to create a new chapter in the city's history. The existing site in Copenhagen Street is due to be vacated in 2015 once a new state-of-the-art facility is built at the Great Western Business Park. The historic site has served the fire service for more than 70 years, and is located in a superb spot opposite Worcester College of Technology. Members of the fire authority have agreed that it can be sold, with a marketing campaign set to launch to highlight the building's potential. Hopes are high that it can deliver a huge, seven-figure sum for the cash-strapped fire service and be put to good use by new owners. It sits a few feet from the Guildhall, Worcester's High Street and is just yards from the riverside. During a meeting of the fire authority's policy and resources committee, councillors said selling it to the right bidder is vital. Councillor Derek Prodger, the chairman, said: "From a city council perspective there's a plan to regenerate the centre of Worcester. "For obvious reasons the city would very much like to be involved in the sale of this site. Ads by Google Active Safety Network 10% off fire risk assessments and fire procedures during August 13 www.activesafetynetwork.com/Fire Unique Experience Days For a Day You'll Never Forget. The Outdoor Pursuits Specialists. march-hare.co.uk "We need to make sure we all work together for the benefit of the whole city on this." Other members urged senior officers to take it slow, saying the property market could be much stronger in future years. Councillor Philip Gretton said: "I just hope we don't sacrifice a better capital receipt because we need this money now. "We need to make sure, if need be that we are prepared to wait even if it takes a year." Treasurer Martin Reohorn said it could take "18 months" or longer if the right offer does not come along immediately. Chief fire officer Mark Yates said: "We'll be seeking the best deal we can get for the public." The committee voted to authorise a sale, with the next stage getting an independent valuation from an agent. A marketing campaign would then launch aimed at enticing interest from developers. The new base, at the Great Western Business Park off Tolladine Road, will contain top class facilities in a 20,000 sq ft facility. It will have storage areas, offices, lecture space and even training rooms for the Young Firefighters Association to encourage careers on the frontline.
  12. Thank you Denise I think I'm gonna need all the luck in world? But nothing ventured nothing gained & miracles do happen cos it says so in the Bible just ask Jesus?…now where's Brian I need to borrow his gourd!! Oh & does anyone know where the PFJ hang out these days?
  13. Listen it ain't over till the fat lady sings!…& I don't hear her singing yet! The next step is planning plus my old mate grid knocker is weaving is literacy magic as we speak on alternative site which I'm planning on handing to mr Johnson bramer & prodger personally! Now this may have no effect but I'm going to do it anyway!
  14. How about trying for sum lottery funding? Also a lot of music venues have sponsorships, O2 seem to do a lot of that maybe we can get local business involved? I'm no expert @ this sort of thing but maybe someone out there is & could offer advice & help?
  15. Who said you don't have any good ideas bobby?…cos you just add some good ones right there!
  16. Yes I think that's a wonderful idea & would be good for business's in that part of town with car parking close by,4 car parks in that area! Plus Hereford doesn't have a place to hold regular gigs in for main stream bands etc? So yes smartieno for manager?!
  17. Hi dippy I don't know if you've seen this from off HWFRS website? But take a look @ wot there doing with Malvern fire station Building and Infrastructure The Service is working at the forefront of improving public services, at a time of considerable financial constraint. With our public sector partners in Herefordshire and Worcestershire, we are finding new ways of using our assets, such as land and buildings, in ways that are transforming how services are delivered. Finance & Assets Strategic Objectives 2013 – 2020 – Asset Management Capital Projects Progress through to completion the capital Fire Station Replacement Program and develop the Asset Management Strategy with a capital supported proactive maintenance program. New Fire Stations and Collaboration with Other Public Sector Partners on Estates The Service is a key partner in the Worcestershire Capital & Asset Property Steering Group. This group developed a single internet-based map of public sector property assets across Worcestershire, as part of the „Total Place‟ initiative. Following on from this, Worcestershire was awarded Accelerated Pathfinder status along with five other partnership areas in the UK. The Accelerated Pathfinder work developed a small number of opportunities presenting the potential for joint and collaborative use of public assets. The development of the joint Police and Fire Station at Bromsgrove is one of these projects and further collaborative opportunities are being explored with consideration towards shared facilities at other locations across the area. Bromsgrove Police and Fire Station It is anticipated that the new combined Fire and Police Station and DCP crewing system (which consists of normal crewing of the station during the day but with an additional on call element during the night), will go live simultaneously in spring 2014. The final selection of staff to work the new crewing system, contract, agreements and protocols should be completed by summer 2013, thus allowing sufficient time to manage the transfer and movement of staff and facilities in the interim period. Malvern Fire Station Construction work for a new Fire Station in Malvern commenced in May 2013, with a substantial re-design and development of the existing site. The Station staff, fleet and equipment have been temporarily relocated to our Operational Logistics site in Malvern, which has enabled significant savings to be made in equivalent temporary arrangements. The project is due for completion in early summer 2014. Worcester Fire Station A proposed design for a new Fire Station in Worcester was completed in March 2013 and it is hoped that an arrangement for the delivery of this project will be secured during the summer. The project includes vastly improved staff welfare arrangements and training facilities. Property Ensure that the Organisation‟s property portfolio is maintained to an acceptable standard and that improvement in safety, efficiency, sustainability and energy management are managed appropriately. ICT Ensure that critical systems are supported and that the ICT network is resourced appropriately to facilitate the needs of the organisation. To support the implementation and running of the next phase of development for the new Fire Control. Procurement To develop processes and systems which will ensure that the Organisation‟s procurement activity is compliant, ethical, competitive and provides best value.
  18. Hey dippy I thought I'd let you know I put your post about the emails on my Facebook page it's had 1,072 viewings last time I looked not bad!
  19. Hi dippy I hope you don't mind but I would like to copy your war cry about emailing councillors before Wednesday meeting to my Facebook page if that's ok? By the way your poem about bobby v Morgan on the banks of the wye, it's not bad not bad @ all!!
  20. It sure does megilleland… & to think Hereford doesn't really have a venue to hold top acts since they stop having them @ the leisure centre?!
  21. Then I second that motion the mighty grid knocker to write down the questions we want answers too!
  22. Hi dippy the three points you've raised are good ones & once it is decided want points need answering how do we go about raising them @ a public meeting? do we put someone forward to ask about said points or will it be a written request?
  23. This is wot they did with the old fire station in Bournemouth. So with a little imagination skill & determination the diversity of potential to covert old buildings is endless! Welcome to the Old Fire Station - The Old Fire Station www.oldfirestation.co.uk
  24. Penelope Creeley’s family transformed this fire station into their home; the tower at the rear of the building, once used to drain fire hoses, became her kids’ favorite hangout. Although this is an old fire station in the USA it just proves that with a little imagination skill & determination wot is achievable!!!
  25. That's brilliant grid knocker you raise a lot of valid points as to why the bus station site is a better alternative than that of bath street!! I wonder if we can get someone to present this option @ H&WFB meeting on Wednesday?
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