Cambo

I think your missing the point ragwert it’s how these contracts were procured & won with certain companies receiving millions if not billions of government (taxpayers) money…the question you should be asking was there anything shady about how the Plymouth brethren associated businesses managed to get those contract when they had no previous experience in or supply of PPE before? Some of it being described as substandard…although they seem to be good at lobbying politicians thou putting on events at parliament with photos opportunities with the speaker of the house no less

https://www.thirdsector.co.uk/brethren-members-followed-charity-commission-officials-during-preston-down-trust-dispute/governance/article/1338635

During the whole pandemic many people got filthy rich off government contracts for PPE including the dubious religious sect the Plymouth brethren/brethren according to a article in the Sunday times today they received millions from the awarding of government contracts…the brethren who own a factory down Rotherwas industrial estate as well as development land…they also have connections to political figures past & present which begs the question was there any corruption by parliamentarian involved in the awarding of these contracts? 

https://apple.news/AHHHWof0wTmC8_Yv2v3L9sw 

Laughable 🤣🤣🤣along with Tony dodgy Blair 🤣🤣🤣the whole honors thing is a completely devalued joke of a affair for the self serving vain egotistical moronic mob of despicable persons brigade & should be abolished in my opinion as it’s as pointless as it would be to handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500

going as it goes to mostly the most underserving shady persons in British social society…talk about a broken system this one’s well beyond repair no amount of bandaid that is applied to it will make it good to my mind

I came across this blog by chance it was a very interesting read

Fox cub cruelty.exposing corruption by police & CPS

I believe the author is a serving officer with WMP?

https://foxcubscruelty.com/blog-feed/

On 01/03/2020 at 22:47, ragwert said:

Found some interesting info on the joint fire & police station.
Proposed site on Merton Meadow was abandoned due to flooding fears.
Site aquired by the police at the back of B&Q will be for both police and fire with a feasibility study for ambulance station being looked at.
Reading between the lines the old police station in Bath St could become Uni accommodation.

When we campaigned to save the old boy’s school in Bath street one of the reasons stipulated by HWFRS was that they need to be within 2 minutes of the city centre...so if indeed they do relocate behind B&Q surely it will take longer than 2 minutes to reach the city centre from that point?

Not that I have any objection to them relocating behind B&Q it’s more the fact that they lied to try to justify their reasons for moving to the old boy’s school location at the time thankfully they saw sense & pull the PA in the end.

5 hours ago, ragwert said:

.If you go to the back of B&Q car park the field in front of you is the land they have bought.Think it was Wiggins sports field

I used to play football for painters & that was our home pitch it had a slight slop on it from one goal to the other...if we won the toss we always choose to kick up the slop in the first half.

16 hours ago, K.Butt said:

This would be okay for cyclists with a weight limit but we still desperately need a vehicle river crossing able to take HGV's etc

Ok so your not against a river crossing going from Beattie Avenue & linking up with Wordsworth road? 
 

as for a river crossing taking HGV’s that could be done on the east connecting Rotherwas with the Worcester road?

the total distance for this two river crossing would be about 6.32 km which is half of the distance of the western bypass route 

obviously this is all hypothetical but if the western bypass is cancelled then the need is to look at alternatives river crossings?

Will they won’t they lay the tarmac down for the new bypass?

if indeed it does get binned it still does not get away from the fact that Hereford needs at lest one new river crossing either east or west or both.

I’m not sure if this idea has been mooted before?

But as an alternative river crossing point on the west side if the western bypass is rejected? I believe that it would be possible to put a bridge with weight limits on & cycle lanes from the bottom of Beattie avenue To link up with Wordsworth road? 
 

a number of benefits would be a direct road link with Whitecross & Belmont the road would be a lot shorter in distance saving on cost compared to the western bypass...less loss of good agricultural land very few if any trees would have to be felled...so in all compared to the western bypass the detrimental impact to the landscape would far less.

Brexit is finished? Personally I don’t think so the reason I believe this is because of the bible believe it or not...so i’m going to attempt to show you some evidence to support that claim & why I believe It is certain to happen ...then you can make up your own minds to whether or not you agree?

how many of you have heard of Tarshish?  it is mentioned over 20 in the bible it relates to a nation & that nation I believe is Britain if that is the case? Then it is undoubtedly assured that Britain will have a political separation from EU Europe given that the bible is 2/3 prophecy

Tarshish was also a source of tin a rare commodity although in ancient times a very sought after commodity as when you mix tin with copper you get bronze.

so is Britain Tarshish? You decide

https://youtu.be/OvEP_EFTsWA

https://www.timesofisrael.com/groundbreaking-study-ancient-tin-ingots-found-in-israel-were-mined-in-england/amp/

10 hours ago, Tom Smith said:

Come on Cambo what has Brexit got to do with local Council elections?

Nothing really but if the candidates mindset is for remaining in the EU then I just don’t feel that I can vote for them.As silly as that might sound to you Tom it all boils down to my lost faith/trust in politicians after witnessing the last six months of the Brexit debacle.

but having looked at the candidates I don’t believe that the con trickster has a cat in hells chance of getting in...my money would be on Sharon Michael as she is the standing being run closely by Diane Toynbee with the Lib Dem,Stephen Williams as a dark horse possible?

if I do change my mind then I guess I will vote for Sharon Michael 

Had leaflets from only two candidates so far Diane Toynbee & Sharon Michael

as it stands I will not be voting as I can’t vote for no con tricksters,Lib Dem’s I will not even entertain them, the greens are a anti Brexit party so they too have got no chance of gaining my vote,Sharon Michael ind not sure of her Brexit stance? as I could not be bothered to even read her leaflet...as the way I feel about politicians at present is not printable!

Diane Toynbee & Nigel Ely are two names I recognise who are both standing in the locals & EU..so what will they do if elected locally then the EU elections are held they both get elected for that?

havent checked though to see if anybody else is standing in both.

12 hours ago, Roger said:

Cambo ..... I've never voted in Euro Elections. I know they are Regional, as far as the UK is concerned. I have gone out of my way to avoid voting in that vote. If there is no Brexit Party Candidate in my voting area then I won't vote in the EU Election. But, of course, there might not be a vote ...... 

Roger you are not alone in not voting in EU elections the turnout is traditionally low...in the UK the lowest turnout was 24% in 1999 in the last one in 2014 it was 35.60% which given the turnout for the referendum of 72.2% so say for argument sake that of the 48.1% who voted to remain there must be at least 12.5%  of those remain voters who did not take part in the last EU elections? Which I find incredible that people who what to stay in are kicking up a fuss about a second referendum when they can’t even be both to vote in EU elections!

http://www.ukpolitical.info/european-parliament-election-turnout.htm

10 hours ago, Roger said:

If the EU Election takes place in the UK I will be voting for The Brexit Party Candidate. If he/she is standing. 

& who will you vote for if they do not have a representative standing?....do you think whoever is standing that they will knock on your door Roger or even campaign in this area given that they will be hoping to become one of 7 mep’s representing the West Midlands which is the region Herefordshire comes under.

out of the 7 one comes from Herefordshire 

I can’t say I know anything of this person I’ve never seen them,spoken with neither can I ever recall them writing in the HT or even heard them speak on one of the local radio stations?

heres a link listing the others who I’ve also never heard anything about?

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/en/your-meps/uk_meps/west_midlands_region.html

What was agreed?
■   A Brexit extension "only as long as necessary" and "no longer than 31 October" to allow for the ratification of the withdrawal agreement
■   The UK "must hold the elections to the European Parliament" and if it fails to do this, the UK will leave on 1 June
■   The European Council reiterates there can be no reopening of the withdrawal agreement negotiations
Read the EU's conclusions here.

so if we fail to hold EU elections we must leave on June 1st....we the people should attempt to sabotage the elections by peaceful means in order to make sure these elections do not go ahead as it is a complete waste of time & money in my opinion.

I’d like to wish Amanda Martin & John Harrington all the best as I hope both can get elected as I feel they both will do a good job even though they are not in the same party.

1 hour ago, Tom Smith said:

I have voted in every election I have been eligible to vote in since 1982.

Once again of 100 people in a room only 37 voted for Brexit?

Is that democracy?

No, it's the system we use in this Country and I accept that.

You say all politicians lie, what proof do you have that is the case?

My opinion, which I hope you respect like I respect your opinion is this.

Cameron called the referendum to placate a divided Tory party on Europe and to try and stop the flow to UKIP. It spectacularly failed to do what he wanted it to do, hence his immediate departure. 

We are now where we are.

But if European elections are called I will vote in them as is my right because not voting is how we got here.

Of 100 people in a room only 37 voted for Brexit the other 63 were against or failed to bother to vote.

First point I respect your opinion however that does not mean I have to accept your argument  as I do not & I would suspect you do not accept my side of the argument either?

yes it is as anyone of voting age has the opportunity & right to do so except those I believe that are incarcerated? So those that decided not to vote for whatever reason should have no complaints at the outcome of any election or referendum as they unlike yourself did not take up there right to exercise that vote but you in doing so you should except the result regardless as you where happy enough to take part in the referendum.

you say you except the system but yet you do not accept the result? So why take part in voting if your not willing to accept the outcome or is it just when it’s not to your liking? 

i did say that & the proof I have is every time one of them opens their mouth a lie pops out you even said it yourself that both sides lied during the referendum campaign where they not mostly all politicians?

well more fool Cameron then isn’t it for calling it in the first place regardless of his reasoning but he did call for it & you willing like many others took part in it with no complaints at the time from yourself or anyone else for that matter I suspect? happily in the knowledge no doubt that it would be a landslide for the remain camp but shock of horrors the British people turned round & stuck two fingers up to all the arrogant remainer’s & the EU who all thought they’d never lose the vote...but they did & that’s democracy whether you like it or not?

if they are called I will try to organise protests outside polling stations but if you wish to exercise your right to vote then that is your free choice to which you have ever right to do so as I do too have the right to peaceful protest against.

again your 100 people in a room argument is floored as those 100 people in a room who do not exercise their free right to cast a vote that is there own fault so should have no complaints at the outcome neither those who voted against the result either as it just shows that they where unable to garner enough votes to swing the outcome in their favour.

1 hour ago, Tom Smith said:

You need to look at it this way.

If 100 people were in a room only 37 of them voted to leave.

That tells you why the Brexit situation has come about.

I don't respect the vote as both sides lied to the electorate.

Do you use the same formula for general & local elections? Because it is pretty floored in my opinion....Also did you vote during the referendum?

No the Brexit situation has come about because people on the remain side along with those remain MP’s have refused to except the result...you saying you don’t respect the vote because both sides lied is a very weak argument as all politicians are known liars & do so when there are votes at stake in any election...which I’m sure you are fully aware of?...unless of course you are saying that it came as a complete surprise to you that politicians are able to lie at all??

Well the Westminster gangsters are doing all they can to prevent us leaving so a no show at the EU ballot boxes with protesters outside would send a clear message to them that we want out in my opinion 

38 minutes ago, megilleland said:

The voting system in the UK needs changing to represent the views of the public - has to be made compulsory subject to fine. After all the politicians say the referendum doesn't reflect the view of the UK. If you don't vote the present system first past the post suits the two main parties to a tee.

Yes megilleland I agree but I feel it is pointless voting in EU elections given we are supposed to be leaving? 

11 minutes ago, Tom Smith said:

It is my right to vote in every election I am eligible to do so. I will continue to do so.

No person shall ever stop me.

That is your right but given you are a remainer I’m not surprised that you will vote in the EU elections I however will not because I do not recognise the legitimacy of it the EU that is given we should of left on March the 29th

but far from stopping anybody physically from voting im suggesting a peaceful protest against voting so please do not try to insinuate that I am suggesting to forcibly stop you or anybody else for that matter from voting as I am not but I do feel it is a waste of time voting in that particular election. 

If the PM IS GRANTED A EXTENSION to leaving the EU then the UK will more than likely have to take part in EU elections...but I would urge folks in the UK not to take part in but rather boycotting with the setting up of picket lines to peaceful encourage people not to take part in them so as not to give them legitimacy so as to send a clear message to our corrupt politicians & the EU itself that we have had enough of there shenanigans in trying to keep us in the unholy union which is contrary to the referendum vote in 2016

But the big question is would people actually take part or just act like sheep in excepting their fate?

On 08/03/2019 at 08:57, SON OF GRIDKNOCKER said:

Well Done Cambo! Mixing it with Parliament's top echelons now. A very courteous reply too. I always much preferred her to her rather pugnacious husband and, frankly, I think she'd have been a better choice as Jezza's Deputy.

Thanks SOG it was...she’s gone up in my estimations that’s for sure...never expected a reply let alone a polite one! 

Who is her pugnacious husband?