stupidfrustration

Well, I would rather not out myself, and I believe if you really really wanted to try and track me down by my IP - without a court order you will find out I live in,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,wait for it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hereford!

Thank you dippyhippy - I have enjoyed for many months reading your posts.

I agree about fairness - but that would be a perfect world - we don't live in a perfect world where all is fair. Answer this one - when play / fusion / saxtys have a 3am licence how come mamma jammers is open till 4am?

So this does not happen too much in Hereford due to the licensing restrictions imposed by the council? A good thing right? I kinda agree but as with everything it's about reducing issues. Kebab shops mean people who have had a drink congregate and many people together - hanging around without security COULD mean fights occur. Not having hot food - or the council using their powers to reduce the problem is surely a good thing? As above - people who have had a drink will eat within saxtys / play / fusion with security around and then go home - or you look at other towns without this ruling and people hang around in these food houses till all hours creating mess and the potential for fights to happen - without security

Yes - all understood

Thank you Colin for your reply. So looking at the above - what is wrong with that? Once again should my taxs be going on extra police at the 4am shift change so 50 people can get a burger at 3.45 in the morning? That can not be the reason or they would let late night food establishments trade till 3am with hot food? (I am guessing here)

So - should my tax's going on policing budgets till 5am so the kebab shops can stay open till 4am? Cops working with the council - madness I say, who would want those two authorities working together for a safer city. Ive picked up over time that you are an ex cop? Just out of interest what rank did you get to? ( I honestly dont know the answer to that question, just trying to understand your knowledge level )

Sorry - Seagulls are just another of my frustrations! Not THE ONLY frustration, and no, they are not the real issue here, but they are part of the by product of late night food houses. As with the new University, there at long last appears to be some joined up thinking by the powers that be with this city, and I think in the next few years this city will change for the better.

Nope - didnt get kicked off of HT, but I do scan that on occasion - I dont post there, in fact, this is the only Hereford based site I post on. It does frustrate me how many people spout their personal opinions as fact, when clearly they have little grasp, apart from their own personal opinion on the facts of the issue. I have no intention of giving my name here, as that could put my position in jeopardy, but I will only comment on things I do have some information/knowledge on and over time I have seen posts from many "famous names" who clearly have no knowledge about the issues they post on. I just couldnt hold back any longer and had to create an account.

Perhaps there are less revellers out and about these days, maybe due to the supermarkets being so cheep, and as there are less party goers for "fightclub" and "pill loved up club" and Fusion, Saxtys etc, then there is less call for the late night food houses. I remember your post about the prawn sandwich, and I remember some of the points, but because you could not find a place good enough for you to eat, hardly makes the point. There are plenty of places to eat in Hereford, from "high end" to "low end". I will however agree, that a great "proper Hereford beef" burger, something like what the Jail House owners create would be a great day time restaurant in Hereford. Beefy Boys to get their own restaurant in town? Now thats a great idea! But only till 01.30 ;-)

I think thats the issue here - your info is out of date. Play / Fusion and Saxtys always have doorstaff out the front doors these days, "fights outside" of clubs are much less than they used to be, again, im pretty confident that the police figures would back that up. Play being fight club - well, you call it what you want, but Play has more people in it on a Saturday night than Mamma Jammers, Saxtys, Fusion and Jail House put together, as such its reasonable to expect more issues in there. But fight club if you wish. Also "pill heads" - i think you will find that Jail House have done a fair bit to clean up their drugs issues, and less and less drugs are being found there - and again, im sure police info will back that up. We are not really talking about a warm sandwich being a national security issue, thats a great sound "bite" - we are talking about places where young people, who have had a drink, congregate without security, who then make a mess with food packaging for seagulls to feed on, and re produce that becomes unruly on the streets, thats the issue. Im very much pro business by the way, but I also understand the other side.

Hi Colin, I know you are the boss around here, but I have a couple of questions for you? 1) Have you asked the police and council re their views about trouble in late night food houses? And 2) Which establishments have shut in lets say the last 3 years as they lacked trade after 0135? Not looking to argue - I know you run the site, but I think they are fair questions?

She does, I fully agree with you about that! I also agree with you that the HT is a frustrating "news"paper. I also agree with you about Hereford Football Club and the posts you made re that. But - as Im sure we will see as posts go on, I disagree with you on so many other things. In fact, you are the reason why I joined this site. Perhaps - once you have checked out what I say - you can come back to this thread and confirm I am right?

I got carried away with my reply - and missed some of your points. 15 years ago - there was a need for doorstaff on late night food houses, and in fact today, there is still a need for doorstaff in late night food houses. Firstly - MUNCHIES has doorstaff, as does The Lunch box and in fact in many other towns like, erm, Worcester/Cardiff/Bristol for example all have security on their doors late at night. Perhaps the issue can be resolved by having security as part of the licence for all the late night food places, and let them stay open later. Perhaps 1 security company can take all the doors so all the late night food houses can work together to control this issue. Is it possible that the clubs that have food as part of their licence are helping to reduce disorder in the town centre?

erm - thanks for asking - but no I dont. My reasoning - My 40 year old next door neighbor - has two kids, a lovely wife and he works hard, as do I. My neighbor the other side and and his lovely wife in their 30's also work hard, as do i. Neither them, nor I or in fact anyone I know stay at home for the evening, have a few drinks, and then at 0135 think, I know what, Ill leave Bartestree,/Moreton - On - Lugg/ Newton Farm, Bobblestock etc and make our way into town because I really need to get myself a kebab right now. Oh no I cant - as they are all shut as of 5 minutes ago. So - who IS the type of person who wants to have a kebab at 0135. Well, Im a man in my 40's, I like a drink in the Barrels, then onto Watercress and I quite like that new place Shake and Stir - then I go for my kebab at around midnight, as Im done then. So - who IS the type of person who wants to have a kebab at 0135? Im a young lad, Im 20 - Ive had a drink at home, cos its nice and cheep from Tescos, then I went to the Long Bar, and then onto Yates, then I went to Fusion, I danced, drunk some more and then I had a Burger, at the Fusion burger bar at 0230. Its good they had a burger bar, as I had now had 6 drinks during the course of my night. Mmmmmm a Fusion burger, lovely. Who do you think these mysterious customers are at 2am looking for food in Hereford that are not in Saxtys/Play/Fusion?

Ah Jess Phillips, no guessing who her mother is ;) She has a history of writing articles about her friends, I would hazard a guess that she knows the winner. I understand the confusion here - but Ive asked the question and Jess IS NOT the daughter of Fiona. Just an unfortunate coincidence in surname.

Biomech Play, Fusion AND Saxtys all have a late night food licence and all serve hot food of some description. You would agree im sure, that when young people have had a drink in a Nightclub in town, its good that these venues can offer food for people to eat inside, in safety, before going home. Of course, a queue outside a kebab shop of which many dont have doorstaff on to keep the queue safe and in control would be much better?

Leon - what is the population of Worcester / Cardiff / Bristol? The population of these towns/Cities in comparison to our little village of 59,500 heads? Once we know the answer to that question - please then consider - the Hereford age demographics? How is our 59500 split age wise compared to the above towns/cities? Make it easy for you - perhaps just say Under 30 and over 30? Perhaps that may go some way to explaining why the Nightlife is different to other places. On top of this - employment and of course UNIVERSITY towns/cities compared to our little village. We will get a university here - but it will be 10 years before we get to the 5000 expected students of the SMT courses on offer here. I do however fully agree with you re the supermarket price drinks. They sell drink to younger people who pre load and then go out to the pubs and clubs and that is what hits the pubs and clubs in town more than anything else.

Agreed - I know MH personally and he is indeed one of the good ones, but hey - people need to earn money to make a living and sadly you dont get paid much as a Councillor