dippyhippy Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 If the Shire Hall renovations are complete, this must mean that there are more toilets for the public to use! I shall pop in this week at some point to check out the facilities! After all, we've paid for them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Lloyd Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Bulls News â€@BullsNewsBlog 49 mins49 minutes ago Council Release Development Agreement: http://bit.ly/1styaqk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Here's an easier link to follow, although it will need the Mighty Megilleland to interrupt because I habent a clue what it means! https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/media/7923851/hereford_football_ground_development-agreement.pdf The rest of the documents are here (good fund Denise!) https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/transparency-hufc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Dippy get pictures of those toilets lol!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Lloyd Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Thank you Flamboyant for sorting me out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 No problem Denise, excuse my spelling everyone I miss keyed! I need a bigger keyboard or glasses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippyhippy Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Thaz orr ite Flam! Dote wurree abowt it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Lloyd Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 They're certainly hot on the trail today Former Hereford Futures boss Jonathan Bretherton told council officials that Edgar St could be used for Supermarket. http://bullsnews.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/offer-site-to-competitive-bids-from_27.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed&m=1 … Funny how his name pops up every so often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Scrooby Ltd are mentioned in one of the FOI requests (see below) Q4 Please detail any requests over the last 12 months for these leases to be transferred to a private company and the response from Herefordshire Council. A. The council received a request to assign the leases of the Blackfriars end and Merton Meadow end to Scrooby Limited on 29th May 2014. This request was subsequently withdrawn and so the council did not respond to it. Scrooby Ltd is a Company set up in July 2013 the Director is non other than Tommy Agombar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippyhippy Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Good Lord. This seems to point in one direction only. This whole saga was a calculated and premeditated ploy. Pretty much what many suspected all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillbilly Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 For those of us new to all this.. Please can one of you more familiar with this explain the timeline of events so that I can understand it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 THE HOUSE OF LORDS TV Thursday 30th October 2014 House of Lords - Lords Chamber Baroness Taylor of Bolton to ask Her Majesty's Government what consideration they have given to giving football fans a greater say in the running of clubs. (Topical Question for Short Debate, 1 hour) 5 items before this so no idea when the debate will start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 They're certainly hot on the trail today Former Hereford Futures boss Jonathan Bretherton told council officials that Edgar St could be used for Supermarket. http://bullsnews.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/offer-site-to-competitive-bids-from_27.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed&m=1 … Funny how his name pops up every so often I see he attended a meeting on 6th September 2013 with David Powell, Ian Higgs, Kultar Khangura (Pinsent Masons). Maybe they asked him to attend as they probably forgot to get their stories right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biomech Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Councillor Chappell. Considering everything that comes out of your mouth is a lie, that you clearly have contempt against the tax paying public of Hereford and that you spend your time sniping at other councillors; May I ask, what is it you actually do? Why are you a councillor? What is your motive? You're either extremely naive and have no idea what is going on - and shouldn't be a councillor, or you're in it for some kind of self gratification and, again, shouldn't be a councillor. Case in point; Let's get something straight. There has never been any desire to build on the Edgar Street ground. So you'll be able to explain these documents obtained via FOI referring to the development of the ground then? "An email released to the public under a Freedom of Information request shows that then Hereford Futures boss Jonathan Bretherton told senior Council officials that the Edgar Street site could be a possible supermarket."http://bullsnews.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/offer-site-to-competitive-bids-from_27.html"This includes the development agreement which was concluded with the previous owners of the club at the beginning of 2014. "https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/transparency-hufc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biomech Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 I don't allow my judgement to be clouded by a persons political party - which is why I judge each of you on what you say without learning who you stand for.Incidentally, I now learn that Cllr Chappel stands for the Independents. I would like to congratulate you Cllr, for single handedly losing my vote for your party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Maybe some people are working behind elected councillors and not keeping them in the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylestone Voice Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 This is all very confusing! Sorry Hillbilly I can't help not sure anyone really understand it? We are not supposed to! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Biomech, I think it's in the job discription, I also think there are courses you can attend on how to 'tell a lie about a lie to cover up a lie' I am not sure they know they are lying I think they have done it for so long they believe it's the truth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biomech Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 It's absolutely ridiculous, and I think the time is coming when people are really going to start to kick off about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Lloyd Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 hillbilly if you follow the following link you will probably get a good idea of the goings on with HUFC Bulls News â€@BullsNewsBlog 1h1 hour ago A full timeline of events since the Tommy Agombar takeover at @HerefordUnited1 http://bullsnews.blogspot.co.uk/p/the-saga-of-hereford-united-hereford.html … Are you really down from the hills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 For real FANS only and can the rest of you stop meddling, Tony doesn't like it! http://www.herefordtimes.com/news/letters/11568411.Be_patient_as_we_work_towards_winding_up_petition/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 House of Lords Chamber Debate 30th October 2014 started at 16:39:00 mins and ended at 17:34:00 mins 9 Peers giving their views on giving football fans a greater say in the running of clubs. No mention of Hereford. Wimbledon's tale of ground being sold from under the fans comes close to home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillbilly Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 hillbilly if you follow the following link you will probably get a good idea of the goings on with HUFC Are you really down from the hills? Thank you Denise And it depends which hills you're talking about ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippyhippy Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Goodness me! Isn't Mr Johnson getting touchy lately?? Or should that be tetchy?? I've said before, I know nothing about football......but I am interested I knowing when local politicians seem to be telling some rather big fibs about what has been happening. And I am always interested to hear reports, when it emerges that Mr Bretherton has been stirring the pot.( Hereford Futures are still casting a shadow......) Mr Johnson still seems to be of the opinion, that nobody must question.......they know what is best for us. They don't. They never have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 hillbilly if you follow the following link you will probably get a good idea of the goings on with HUFC Bulls News â€@BullsNewsBlog 1h1 hour ago A full timeline of events since the Tommy Agombar takeover at @HerefordUnited1 http://bullsnews.blogspot.co.uk/p/the-saga-of-hereford-united-hereford.html … Are you really down from the hills? I read that timeline post when it came out ... I think I retweeted it ... Just a crazy situation is it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Friday 31 October 2014 in Hereford Times News by Bill Tanner Confidential e-mail suggested supermarket options for Hereford United ground. Council says it has no plans to pursue the sell-off suggestion A CONFIDENTIAL email sent to Herefordshire Council suggested Hereford United’s Edgar Street home could be offered to Tesco and Morrisons if the club folded. Fans of the troubled club have regularly voiced concerns that the ground would be sold for development. The email, made public under the Freedom of Information Act, has heightened those fears, especially as it came to light in a week when the local authority, as landlord, made a failed attempt to take possession of the ground from the club’s current owners. However, the council has moved swiftly to reassure fans there are no plans to pursue the sell-off suggestion made in January by the then Hereford Futures boss Jonathan Bretherton. And council leader Tony Johnson added that since the email was written, it has further protected the ground with extra restrictions on the development agreement which means a percentage of any profits from developing the ends of the stadium must go back into the ground. "What better evidence of our commitment to football at Edgar Street could there be," Mr Johnson told the Hereford Times this week. The council described the email as simply comments from Jonathan suggesting possible options for the Edgar Street site" and added: "These comments have never been formally considered or progressed by the council.†Mr Bretherton outlined 12 development scenarios for the Blackfriars end of the ground and added a 13th option stating: “If you want to be really radical, if the club folds, offer the site to competitive bids from Tesco and Morrisons.†The email, marked ‘HUFC – commercially confidential,’ was addressed to two senior council officers – director of places and communities Geoff Hughes and Tony Featherstone, strategic asset manager. Councillor Johnson confirmed this week that the council had held talks with groups interested in continuing football at Edgar Street if the club was wound up in the High Court on December 1. He said: “We will do everything we can to keep football at Edgar Street. Under the development agreement, value from the leases must go to the ground not the club – these conditions were imposed by this council. “We have indicated to interested parties that we will consider negotiated leases up to 250 years for commercial and 999 years for residential which is the norm for such arrangements. “In his capacity as CEO of Hereford Futures, Mr Bretherton looked at a range of possible tenants for the developed ends as part of his job requirements – none of those has ever been discussed let alone decided on. “The e-mail pre dates the development agreement with its restrictions imposed by this council and in any case no tenants for the ends have been discussed since no development plans have yet been made.†Hereford Futures (HF) was set up by the council in 2010 as an “arm’s length†company to drive redevelopment in the city. It was a successor to Edgar Street Grid (Hereford) Ltd. With the council acting as guarantor, HF was not subject to audit and accountancy obligations applying to local authority companies. HF was tasked to help Hereford United to identify potential development partners for the ground. An HF business plan from 2011 reveals the role the company also played in advising the council over the future for the ground and to lead negotiations with development partners. In 2012, Mr Bretherton was the first signatory on the re-assigned ground leases, followed by Mr Hughes and the then owner of Hereford United, David Keyte. When HF was wound up in May last year, the council had paid out nearly £3 million in financial support to the company. See post 46 for email. Good to see Bill Tanner following this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 delete colin please repeated twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 I see JB was also privy to a Sanctuary Housing option: but they declined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippyhippy Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Hi Chris Bull, December1st approaches.....any news yet, or do we have to wait a few days longer?? Given the recent news......I just had to ask!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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