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The Church of Freedom and Rough Sleepers…


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#1 Clarkester

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Posted 07 September 2017

Recently I have noticed that most mornings there are two or more people sleeping rough in the doorway of the Freedom Church on Commercial Road.

It set me wondering…
 
Firstly, are those in the FC aware of this?  I cannot believe they are not…
 
Secondly, what are their feelings towards having people sleeping on their front step?
 
Thirdly, being all good Christians and all that, why, are they not opening their doors and welcoming them in for a warmer, more comfortable nights sleep?
 
It seems to me that the building is more than capable of giving a few, less fortunate people, that may have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own, a good nights sleep in nicer surroundings than an old nightclub doorway. 
Think of all the good publicity they could give themselves.
 

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#2 Denise Lloyd

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Posted 07 September 2017

I only read the first couple of sentences and my reply was going to be similar to your last 2 paras - great minds and all that

 

Don't forget FC is a registered charity and it would be lovely to see them doing some local charitable work.  


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#3 ragwert

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Posted 07 September 2017

Someone sleeping there about an hour ago


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#4 AndyS2992

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Posted 07 September 2017

What does the Freedom Church actually do other than hold cult like mass baptisms and grooming children by handing out sweets at school gates and handing out hot drinks (possibly drugged lol) to students walking up Aylestone hill? Never heard a good word about them. But I too have seen the homeless here and have also wondered why they haven't been let inside. The church at Eign Gate or whatever also has rough sleepers from time to time.

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#5 SON OF GRIDKNOCKER

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Posted 09 September 2017

Saturday 9 September. 08.30hrs. Five overnight sleepers in the FC's doorway in Commercial Road. St Peter's CoE Church regularly lays on free breakfasts in winter for unfortunates who don't have a roof over their heads. Wonder why the FC happy clappers don't open their doors to provide the same sort of christian charity.


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#6 Clarkester

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Posted 09 September 2017

Fast forward to 13:30... Three chaps still in the doorway... Will they be so welcome tomorrow I wonder?
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Posted 11 September 2017

Fast forward to 13:30... Three chaps still in the doorway... Will they be so welcome tomorrow I wonder?


In answer to that clarkester no they are not welcome by FC called by today & spoke with the guys sleeping rough obviously FC like to cherry pick the bits of Christianity that suits them & giving help to homeless people is not one of those things on their list!
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#8 Clarkester

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Posted 11 September 2017

That's very interesting...

Not entirely surprising.

But pretty much what I think most people thought would be the answer.

How sad.


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#9 herefordman75

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Posted 11 September 2017

I suppose it depends on how much they can spare for a donation.......


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#10 Aylestone Voice

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Posted 11 September 2017

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#11 Denise Lloyd

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Posted 11 September 2017

No money no gain! Should really be reported to the Charities Commission.  


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Posted 11 September 2017

T'is easier for a rich man to crawl through the eye of a needle than it is for a poor homeless person mounted on a Camel to enter the Kingdom of The God that these parasitical zealots and hypocrites worship.
Split a piece of wood and you'll find them. Lift up a stone and they'll be there. Charities! Legally registered and operating under the banner of The Lord Is Always By Y'er Side. Designed to take money and orchestrated to keep it and grow increasingly wealthy by the appropriating of property. And it's all done under your nose. Arranged by the rich man who lives in the big house on the hill, supported by those who would like to live on the hill and funded by a gathering of holier than thou tambourine shaking gullible sycophants who want to follow those that live in the big house on the hill and want to feel good about themselves before they meet and face their headstone. The game of Registered Charitable organisations continues unabated and happily making the wealthy wealthier and the poor worse off.
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#13 Clarkester

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Posted 14 September 2017

Ah, it's all okay, folks...

It says so in the Hereford Times.

Mike Truelove said that the Freedom Church is providing assistance to homeless people.

Of course, he doesn't go on to say what sort of assistance that might be.

This is of course in the story of Hereford BID's final solution to the begging "problem" (mainly in Church Street apparently!)

All a bit "Hot Fuzz" if you ask me.  Still, it's for the greater good...


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#14 Steve Major

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Posted Yesterday

I saw three or four people drinking plenty of alcohol last week when I walked past.


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#15 SON OF GRIDKNOCKER

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Posted Today

Slightly askew to this thread's main theme (homeless sleeping rough outdoors), but a good friend of mine worked for many years at the Hereford branch of the Samaritans. He said that they would often get a visit from an itinerant vagrant (once called 'men of the road') who just wanted a bit of warmth and a free cup of tea and a biscuit. One regular told my friend that amongst the men of the road, word spread that Hereford was a 'no go' area, for the simple reason that it has no refuge (unlike, say Worcester or Gloucester). The best place to kip, he said, was in the pedestrian tunnel connecting Eign Gate with Whitecross Road, though even there, one was in danger of 'getting a kicking' from homeward-bound disco revellers.

 

If it wants to put its compassionate Christian money where its mouth is, why can't FC join forces with Herefordshire Council and create a state-of-the-art refuge on its site on the Rotherwas Road, which I believe it purchased a couple of years back for a sum somewhat southwards of £1-million?


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#16 Denise Lloyd

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Posted Today

I thought FC and Herefordshire Council had almost joined forces anyway.  


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